USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

[Mystery Steve]

Just because the RCE online article doesn't show any progress with pictures, doesn't mean nothing is happening there. They did mention they are going to have an article on them in the March issue. I'm guessing they probably have some images to share, but don't want to just post them on the internet for free. They do have a product to sell at the end of the day... I'm looking forward to reading it.

I do like this image though, would make a really sweet desktop background if I could find a higher-res version...

[Fil]

Any progress is good progress. The article sure does bring more optimism to the whole operation.

I am a little disappointed that they won't be doing the cliché stars & stripes livery though.

[Mystery Steve]

I am a little disappointed that they won't be doing the cliché stars & stripes livery though.

I would imagine it will at least have it's share of red, white and blue, no? Personally, I'm kinda glad to hear they aren't going to have stars and stripes all over it. I get sick of seeing it overused here in the states sometimes.

Though, I am curious to see what it will look like now. I'm starting to get excited for the new season to start. Should be some interesting story lines to follow with the new driver line ups and new teams, and hopefully we'll see a few decent on-track battles.

[xpensive]

Falcon was nothing more than a ploy to keep Roger Penske from building his own car as he did in CART for many years. The theory has it that when the IRL announced they would allow three chassis manufacturers for the next generation car – Roger Penske submitted a bid to be one of the three manufacturers, assuming of course that he would provide equal chassis to some of his competitors.

Looks like Max was not the only bad seed in world of racing.

The deal with MrM was probably just to look serious enough to keep "manufacturish" prospects like Prodrive and Lola out of contention for the selection bid last summer, while the agreement with MrT is perhaps to keep up appearances long enough to hold off Stefan/Toyota?

But recycling old images of generic-looking F1 cars without front-suspension, CFD results which could have been taken from "My F1 car" on F1T and a workshop without an autoclave big enough for an undertray, that can't go on for much longer.

[FW17]

But recycling old images of generic-looking F1 cars without front-suspension, CFD results which could have been taken from "My F1 car" on F1T and a workshop without an autoclave big enough for an undertray, that can't go on for much longer.

Floor of the car need not be a single piece. Floor also is not a stressed member so it does not matter if the autoclave is small or large.

[raceman]

US F1 will have inventive cars




let's hope they are true, it will spice up the sport


what do ya think??

[xpensive]

US F1 will have inventive cars

let's hope they are true, it will spice up the sport
what do ya think??

I think the USF1-engineer interviewed is referring to the invisible front suspension in the image below, which gives a whole new meaning to the concept of "open wheel racing", doesn't it?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/imag ... USF1a1.jpg

[Pandamasque]

US F1 will have inventive cars

let's hope they are true, it will spice up the sport
what do ya think??

I think the engineer is referring to the invisible front suspension in the image below, which gives a whole new meaning to the concept of "open wheel racing", doesn't it?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/imag ... USF1a1.jpg

The same air of transparency is surrounding the engine. This car is supposed to be so fast that no one ever is expected to be capable of running into the back of it. That's why rear crash structure is simply not necessary. Either that or both cars will be driven by Chuck Norris.

[scarbs]

Well so far all we have to go on is the limited images of USF1 parts and CAD images. From I’ve seen, the cars aero and mechanical set up is conservative. Any innovation is being kept to themselves or is in the detail and suppliers.

Its now clear they are going with their own gearbox, EMCO are listed as their partner (still neither party replies to my emails). IIRC EMCO produced the original IRL gearbox, but don’t have a record of other single seater or cutting edge transmissions.

I personally look forward to see the final car and the solutions it employs. I can’t recall many F1 car built with so little F1 experience, but with such high profile staff and partners from within motorsport. The only one that springs to mind was the Toyota TF101 test car, Andre de Cortanze had a little F1 experience, but was much more a bike\sportcar\rally car designer. De cortanze was of course dropped for Gustav Brunner early on in the process

[f1ar]

I was looking at this picture:




Is it me or they´re going to use vertically mounted spring-shocks in the front suspension?

[xpensive]

Indeed, it looks as if the invisible push-rod will activate a visible rocker, pivoted in the beautifully machined Alu-piece
seen in the video before, while said rocker will compress an invisible vertical spring-unit, scarbs?

[scarbs]

yes, all teams use vertical dampers, with the torsion bars effectively horizontal, and running longitudenal to the car. I dont see USF1 doing anything conceptually different here.

[xpensive]

yes, all teams use vertical dampers, with the torsion bars effectively horizontal, and running longitudenal to the car. I dont see USF1 doing anything conceptually different here.

True, but if I believe that I see a dark-blue conventional coil-spring as well in that image, am I completely out at sea?

[scarbs]

yes, all teams use vertical dampers, with the torsion bars effectively horizontal, and running longitudenal to the car. I dont see USF1 doing anything conceptually different here.

True, but if I believe that I see a dark-blue conventional coil-spring as well in that image, am I completely out at sea?

It could be, the pictures not clear enough (I cant see it myself), there's no performance difference between the two spring formats, coils just take up more space and need bigger holes in the monocoque to remove.

[xpensive]

Remember that machined Alu-thing from the video scarbs, there it is, holding the two light-blue rockers, but where would the torsion-bars be at?