Mclaren Mercedes MP4-25

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ringo
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Hey i just noticed something. Check out the smooth flow into the intake over hami's head:

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Hami haters: " That son of a..." :o :wtf: :evil:
"That car was designed around him!!!!!" He said he had input into the design, that good for nothing.... double crossing ... GrrrrRRRR!!!!!!! Button's head is too long god darn it!!"

:lol: :lol:

Let the conspiracy theories begin. It seems the car was designed with a driver of his height in mind. Button should be able to adjust his seat a little though.
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Well, you name a new 'problem'

The first problem is that Hamiltons and Buttons driving styles are completely different, not ideal when building a car, therefore it can be hugely possible that two different tubs would be built, just to fit their chrasteristics more.
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Lol, but Ferrari conspiricies (spelt wrong I know) are much more fun!

Personally I'm happy to let the fia conjure up the macca tales of wrong doing (not)!

Edit: IMO the 2010 regs are likely to suit jensen's smooth driving style and Lewis will have to adapt his driving style if hewqnts to race well against jb. Qually is a different story IMO, Lewis will have the advantage there.
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When Webber showed up and was testing the first Newey penned car, he was asked to change helmets and was driving in a white one for the first test, as he had designed the car to work with a specific helmet brand.
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ISLAMATRON
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I'm interested in these openings just behind the sidepod inlets(just below the mirrors)... any of you aero guys got some hot air to blow about them?

I have definatly never seen that on any car in the past.

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Maybe to relieve the high pressure in that area?

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I see them as a compromise since slits aren't allowed in any other area. They won't do much cooling given that the radiators are further back so they're probably to reduce the pressure in the area in front of the sidepods, as PNSD said.
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Does anyone know what this circled thing is at the mirrors ? It's most probably something different, but I thought right away at these indicators that some new passengers cars have that signals when a car is in the blind area. It would be a handy tool hence the lack of the driver's visibility. Would it be against the rules to have such an indicator?

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This tool I was talking about is accually called a 'Lane Change Indicator' which you can see in this vid.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FWnK7e1Jm0[/youtube]
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it is a camara... well usually it is... but what you suggest might be a good idea to stop these crazy drivers from weaving.

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Scotracer wrote:I see them as a compromise since slits aren't allowed in any other area. They won't do much cooling given that the radiators are further back so they're probably to reduce the pressure in the area in front of the sidepods, as PNSD said.
And reducing the pressure there would be beneficial why?

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ISLAMATRON wrote:
Scotracer wrote:I see them as a compromise since slits aren't allowed in any other area. They won't do much cooling given that the radiators are further back so they're probably to reduce the pressure in the area in front of the sidepods, as PNSD said.
And reducing the pressure there would be beneficial why?
Scarbs posted on his twitter about them
The 'no opening' rule for the sidepods is only applied upto 45cm forward of the cockpit opening. Thus Mac's legal http://twitpic.com/10uytl
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Mclaren: now opened cooling outlets on both sidepods

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ringo wrote:Hey i just noticed something. Check out the smooth flow into the intake over hami's head:

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Hami haters: " That son of a..." :o :wtf: :evil:
"That car was designed around him!!!!!" He said he had input into the design, that good for nothing.... double crossing ... GrrrrRRRR!!!!!!! Button's head is too long god darn it!!"

:lol: :lol:

Let the conspiracy theories begin. It seems the car was designed with a driver of his height in mind. Button should be able to adjust his seat a little though.
Wait until someone makes a double-decker helmet :P
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ISLAMATRON wrote:
Scotracer wrote:I see them as a compromise since slits aren't allowed in any other area. They won't do much cooling given that the radiators are further back so they're probably to reduce the pressure in the area in front of the sidepods, as PNSD said.
And reducing the pressure there would be beneficial why?
Could the slits be used to bleed excess air from the rad intakes?
(ie. the engine didn't need all the cooling it was getting, and this way they weren't unnecessarily forcing the air to work thru the rad setup for no reason)

in a way, an airflow-adjustable radiator intake..?
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Fil wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:
Scotracer wrote:I see them as a compromise since slits aren't allowed in any other area. They won't do much cooling given that the radiators are further back so they're probably to reduce the pressure in the area in front of the sidepods, as PNSD said.
And reducing the pressure there would be beneficial why?
Could the slits be used to bleed excess air from the rad intakes?
(ie. the engine didn't need all the cooling it was getting, and this way they weren't unnecessarily forcing the air to work thru the rad setup for no reason)

in a way, an airflow-adjustable radiator intake..?
quite possibly but they seem to of opened up a lot of parts pre radiator on the car maybe we'll see the parts closed up on tracks without many long straights to increase cooling, maybe an alternative to closing up the intakes like they did last year.

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A13EX_f wrote:maybe an alternative to closing up the intakes like they did last year.
That is my impression of what they're for. A more aerodynamically efficient way of reducing the amount of air used for cooling.

McLaren initially tested without them fitted, then added one to one side of the car (left), then added the other. Suggesting they were making sure they had sufficient cooling and progressively reducing the amount of air going through the side pods, checking the effect on the car.