USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

[qw56q]

There was another team that entered a f3000 (I think) chassis as an F1 car one year but never qualified.

It was red.

Any idea who it was? My archive of F1/Motorsport/Engineering mags is currently stored, and it's been bugging me.

life

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_(Formula_One_team)

[dumrick]

There was another team that entered a f3000 (I think) chassis as an F1 car one year but never qualified.

It was red.

Any idea who it was? My archive of F1/Motorsport/Engineering mags is currently stored, and it's been bugging me.

Life in 1990?



Although it wasn't a F3000 car, but the First F1 unraced chassis with a W12 engine on the back.

Take note of this people: USF1 will be in the Barhain grid.

Some credit to Belatti here, the Argentinian connection may be working...

[Giblet]

Yeah that was them.

"...The experienced Brazilian Richard Divila drew up an initial layout based around the somewhat diminutive dimensions of Martini and Apicella, and the March 88B they had been piloting in F3000."

So it was an F3000 March 88b. OT complete, thanks.

[Belatti]

Interesting how the front wing pillars go backwards unlike one's of any F1 car for the last... decade(?).

Remember the last one?
Jordan 199 maybe?

[pipex]

"...The experienced Brazilian Richard Divila drew up an initial layout based around the somewhat diminutive dimensions of Martini and Apicella, and the March 88B they had been piloting in F3000."

The same Divila that was involved in the Ligier 1989 car with Ken Anderson? everything goes in circles hahaha

[Belatti]

So, if USF1 and Campos wont be at Barhain, is there any other team beyond Stefan GP that can be there?

[segedunum]

I guess there won't be no Barber-barbeque-thang in two weeks then, y'all?

There never was going to be. As far as I have been able to make out there has been nothing lined up at all to prepare for any test of any description when they said that was what they were going to do. They couldn't even if they wanted to now. Not to mention that they still haven't managed to take any of the crash tests, let alone build anything approaching a complete chassis capable of undertaking one.

In the Autosport thread CompositeKen talks about staff turning up semi-regularly because there's nothing to work on, and that tallies with what we've physically seen - or not seen, as the case might be. As we had suspected, they haven't even seen a Cosworth because they can't pay.

http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?s ... try4123537

As soon as I saw pictures of that black composite, incomplete chassis tub with two ejits man-handling it - constantly - (and that was all we saw for weeks on end) I just kept hearing "Falcon, Falcon, Falcon" in my head. There has been visibly no progress with those tubs, no engine fitting or attachment, no attempt at fitting the suspension if they have one, no driver or seat fitment........nothing that will actually give you a car. I always said that until they had attempted to put all the pieces together to get a complete car, well in advance of any crash test or shakedown test, then this thing was more dead then a dead thing that's very dead.

That was fundamental in my eyes and they failed, and I can't believe that people possibly more experienced than me around here fell for that "Look, we've got bits of it together!" crap. It's the oldest and crappiest trick in the book (I'm sure we've all pulled it on a homework assignment at school we just couldn't be bothered with), and it's been pulled on many Ken Anderson projects as well as others before. He just cannot manage and lead this ---.

[segedunum]

...if Chad Hurley's money-chest is now locked and the only source of income, it's over.

The Chad Hurley finance situation is interesting, because I haven't been able to work out quite what it is. I'm sure Chad is far too wily to have put too much into this 'venture' without seeing some results and knowing when a car will actually roll its wheels. However, any money that he has put in will have long since disappeared under a mountain of technical gobbledegook and not-so creative accounting. He was ill-advised to sink money into this with the prospectives having no track record whatsoever. Now, if a US F1 team was to be started by Penske, then that would be something. That's the only way a US Formula One team could be created I think and the only place I would put my money.

Pit really. It looks as though they might actually have some decent staff in there, but Ken Anderson and Peter Windsor are the extreme weak links, sucking all the air in in the room - as predicted many, many moons ago in this very thread.

EDIT: In the next month or so I will bet that Ken Anderson will suddenly become AWOL, uncontactable and no one will know where he is.

[xpensive]

...but Ken Anderson and Peter Windsor are the extreme weak links, sucking all the air in in the room - as predicted many, many moons ago in this very thread.

Correct seg, one asshole in particular has been taking every oportunity to bash those two fraudsters for a year...

[fizzer]

The USF1 chief aerodynamicist seems cautiously optimistic: http://twitter.com/ericswarren

Quotes:

# Working on the tooling for the floor. Double diffuser is aggressive but the next one is crazy. about 5 hours ago from web

# Got some positive developments on the @USF1 front today. A long way to go but everyone is working hard to make it happen. about 21 hours ago from web

[marcush.]

for sure in the good ol days ,the Sasettis ,bruns ,Kauhsens and Merzarios,First/Life as well as lola or Dams or Monteverdi attempting to build a F1 Team and car had the distinct advantage of no www ...
I think USF1 has done itself no favour when announcing things they can now not deliver.
If you look into Ken Andersons website ,at least the Falcon apears to me having reached a status of being a complete IRL car ....more than most of us could say they have as experience under their belt.
But of course the whole affair looks a bit too much improvised and the timeline they have seems too much of a rubberstring to me to believe they really have their management sorted as it is needed .
So lets hope the money is still flowing so they get the two necessary cars ready to race or rollout in Bahrain ,to hope for them being anything than dead last for the complete 2010season is already completely unrealistic .

[madtown77]

Regarding the autosport forum posts, this is a load of crap. If one of their engineers is doing that, that would make him the most idiotic person in the history of idiocy. If you see a place going down in flames, you leave quietly before it hits the fan and find another job. Making a stink about it on a public forum is career suicide, even IF the operation is a hoax. No one is going to hire a whistle blower who airs it out in the open, let alone a half-*** whistle blower just wanting attention.

Personally, I am growing more skeptical of US F1 by the minute, but in the end they will either make the cut or they won't. If they don't, then we can all blame Windor/Anderson and the worst commissioner of any sport in history, Bernie Eccelstone. Only a complete lunatic torpedoes operations in their infancy that are coming out of a HUGE market you have never successfully cracked despite its potential and budding fan base. If you know they are having trouble, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! Even if they had sponsors lined up, how many do you think wil stay after the troll comes out of his cave and proclaims that he doubts your ability to produce a car. I got $20 that this is the reason that they had a "late" payment from a sponsor.

[bill shoe]

Peter Windsor interviewed on the starting grid for Bahrain on 14 March 2010--

Interviewer: Well Peter, it's been a long effort for USF1, but now with just a few minutes remaining before the green flag it looks like you won't be able to make the race.

P. Windsor: Oh no, actually everything is fine. We've had a few problems, but that's to be expected in a new F1 team. We will definitely make the start of this race.

Interviewer: But you have no cars present at the track, you haven't passed crash testing, and your two drivers are running around in circles in the garage with their helmets on making sputtering engine noises with their mouths.

P. Windsor: Please just watch the promotional videos on our website. You'll clearly see things that look like F1 car parts. That proves we'll make the start of the season here in a few minutes.

Interviewer: You know Peter, it's very difficult to get a team going and get funding and I know many fans in America and around the world will be rooting for you even if you have to admit it's not working out.

P. Windsor: Thanks for the support, I'll see you from the top step of the podium after the race. We're really looking forward to the next race-- we have a new aero step that should be worth another 6 tenths per lap!!

[Professor]

It has been suggested that USF1 will crash test at the CAPE facility near Indianapolis. It about 10 hours by truck from the Charlotte area and is FIA approved.

http://www.usf1formula1.com/2010/02/cra ... ility.html

[Pandamasque]

USF1 are so good they bash themselves.