Green rear light

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Our night vision starts to deteriorate naturally in our 30's. A scientist noticed some fish could see infrared, which was odd. The substance in the fishes eyes that allowed them to see in the infrared was chlorophyll, just like plants, which use it to synthesize infrared light into energy.

So shouldn't we just put chlorophyll in our eyes?

Apparently we should.

http://discovermagazine.com/2009/sep/04 ... ght-vision
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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Pandamasque wrote:I think it's better to discuss the green light issue outside the Lotus T127 thread.

I'd like to know the real reason it's green. The rookie driver idea by tok-tokkie is credible. The rain version isn't, IMO. Why would you change the colour of the 'rain light' for testing for selected cars?

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2007 Valencia, Nakajima. Red for everyone else: http://www.motorsport.com/photos/select ... ing%/Day_2

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Sunny Jerez later that year, not a hint of rain.
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Piquet jr.
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Marco Andretti.

Bahrain testing, 2007. Piquet. RAIN?
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ISLAMATRON wrote:
Pandamasque wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:The green light is said to be seen more readily in the rain/foul weather... we've seen it before(on a toyota maybe?) in testing and it has nothing to do with rookie drivers... the FIA may have just put it in place without making big deal of it... which would be kinda silly with their whole "make cars green" campaign.
Rain. Yeah right.

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What? you think they switch the color when it is not raining?
Usually Panda, I would say you are quite an ass, but that is not allowed here so let me attack the post and not the poster by saying your posts(please note the plural) are quite asinine.

But let me commend you for making another thread so as to not contaminate the Lotus thread with your asinine posts.

The FIA was evaluating a new light color because the red may not have been the best choice. It is generally called a "rain light" but it is used in many conditions, In the rain(or other foul weather), in the pit lane, behind the SC, and some others. The main reason the FIA looked into switching to green was given that it is much more visible in the rain & foul weather. That being said it still must be tested under all conditions to make sure no unforeseen problems arise.

That joke about changing the light for THE BOSS was hilarious.

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could it be an easier way to tell the drivers apart?
car 1 red, car 2 green?

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bjpower wrote:could it be an easier way to tell the drivers apart?
car 1 red, car 2 green?

So how would that work when the rain is pouring and you cannot see the driver? All you can see is multiple geren flashes and red flashes.

:wink:


I also thought the Boss joke was a cracker...it's the way you tell 'em!
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bjpower
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let me rephrase the fearri with the red light is massa and the fearri with the green light is Alonso.
make it easier for spectators and commentators.
Its just a guess

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ISLAMATRON wrote:Usually Panda, I would say you are quite an ass, but that is not allowed here...
That's a very common confusion among members. Actually, it's allowed. Following that spirit of freedom, mods also allow themselves to write anything they wish about post quality, as you already know, only that we prefer PMs. ;)
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ISLAMATRON wrote:Usually Panda, I would say you are quite an ass, but that is not allowed here so let me attack the post and not the poster by saying your posts(please note the plural) are quite asinine.

But let me commend you for making another thread so as to not contaminate the Lotus thread with your asinine posts.

The FIA was evaluating a new light color because the red may not have been the best choice. It is generally called a "rain light" but it is used in many conditions, In the rain(or other foul weather), in the pit lane, behind the SC, and some others. The main reason the FIA looked into switching to green was given that it is much more visible in the rain & foul weather. That being said it still must be tested under all conditions to make sure no unforeseen problems arise.
Let me then say (without any paraphrasing like you did) that you in fact are an ass.
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And here's the most recent example why. You've just bashed me for not agreeing to your previous posted nonsense and then just presented your new theory on why this light was green, with no evidence whatsoever (again). But of course whatever new piece of trash you preach every day is correct. You just can't be wrong.

Further name-calling should be sent in PM, but won't be replied to anyway, so back on topic, please. :wink:
bjpower wrote:could it be an easier way to tell the drivers apart?
car 1 red, car 2 green?
The light is on only in the pit-lane or when it rains. But it would indeed be helpful when the visibility is too bad to see the helmets or T-cameras properly.

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Giblet wrote:Green makes sense. Our eyes are poor in the red spectrum, and road signs are not arbitrarily green. They are in fact green because we can see that better than other colors....
Ciro Pabón wrote: About why red and green for traffic lights, I've heard many theories, but I think it's simply a carryover of "traffic lights" for ships.
Green road signs???? All the danger/prohibition signs I see on roads have a red circle or red triangle.

My understanding is that red is associated with danger, green with safety. It's all to do with our prehistoric ancestors. If you're struggling to survive in jungle/savannah etc, then it is a handy evolutionary trick for non-green things to jump out in your perception. Non-green things can be food (fruit) or dangerous (tiger).

It's no coincidence that passive things in nature that just want to sit quietly in the corner have dull drab greeny colours, while active things that want to be seen are not green. That's why fruit changes colour when it is ready to be eaten. Dangerous animals are often brightly coloured, sometimes with angular patterns (those little poisonous frogs).

There are other studies that claim a gender difference, women are better at pattern and colour recognition relating to plant foraging (ie subtle differences in shade and texture) while men are better at spotting dramatic changes and angular patterns (sabre tooth tiger, spears, axes).

Next time you are on a busy street, glance around and see how many things you spot that are green rather than red. You'll struggle. Look in a car park. Or perhaps a magazine stand. You'll see red red instantly. You'll only see green if you look for it.

So, I'd say red for danger is about human perception, not physics. So when you see a bright red light and slam on the brakes, you may think it is due to your driver training. It is actually something deep inside you that screams "aarrrghhhh sabre tooth tiger!!!!"

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Ciro Pabón wrote:Europeand rear fog lights are red because stop lights are red, as far as I know. They are brighter than regular stop lights, to make them more visible. Your car has only one so they don't get confused with regular stop lights.
Yes, we have red tail, stop, fog lights, they vary in brightness:

- Tail light - 5W - on each side
- Brake light - 21W - on each side + high centre
- Fog light - 21 W - Cheap cars have one because it isn't used very often, but better cars have two, usually very low down. You can tell a lot about a car manufacturer's ambition based on whether they provide 1 or 2 reversing and fog lights.

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Nice Post :lol:
richard_leeds wrote:So when you see a bright red light and slam on the brakes, you may think it is due to your driver training. It is actually something deep inside you that screams "aarrrghhhh sabre tooth tiger!!!!"
Damn, there are too much "sabre tooth tigers" on the roads today :twisted:

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Ciro Pabón wrote:The most visible colour combinations for the human eye are yellow over black and white over green. Source: AASHTO study on color visibility, TRB Magazine.
It's the jungle thing again. White berries stand out against a green leaf. Yellow and black bands identify dangerous animals - bees, wasps, snakes.

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Yes green road signs.

The ones you need to read from far away, not the yellow and black signs, or red triangles, or the no slash road signs. The kind that say "Toronto - 200km" or "Exit 25".

http://www.upstatenyroads.com/clearview.shtml

They are green, with white clearview font on them, for ease of reading.
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Giblet wrote:Yes green road signs.

The ones you need to read from far away, not the yellow and black signs, or red triangles, or the no slash road signs. The kind that say "Toronto - 200km" or "Exit 25".

http://www.upstatenyroads.com/clearview.shtml

They are green, with white clearview font on them, for ease of reading.
Oh them! In Britain we have blue backgrounds for motorways, green background for big main roads, white background for the rest, ie small roads.

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Being red-green colour-blind sucks at times like these :lol:
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Scotracer wrote:Being red-green colour-blind sucks at times like these :lol:
You really aren't missing out on much here.