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StrFerrari4Ever wrote:Wow the exhausts exits are so low on that baby! Brilliant work by the Milton Keynes based squad.
Goodness me, that looks unusual. I haven't noticed anything like that before.

I just hope they can sort out their engine related trouble completely because I think the speed is definitely there to win races, but sadly I can certainly see a few DNFs.

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This picture is from today's testing with the lowered exhausts.
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Now I want to see how they hooked up the exhaust lines... It would be cool to find a picture without the engine cover... Of course, that won't happen till after Bahrain - if not later.

I couldn't find any good pictures, but it looks like they didn't move the exhausts until the second day of Barcelona testing.
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Seems like Newey's style. He used blown diffusers a lot in '90s.

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timbo wrote:Seems like Newey's style. He used blown diffusers a lot in '90s.
Can we imply that the potential link between the radiators and the diffuser is now broken? Could this possibly be replaced by an external inlet to the diffuser from the exhausts?

This car is getting quite extreme in appearance. Super low exhausts (potential hazard on curbs?) and a massive cooling orifice.
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One thing's for sure Newey is planning to hit the entire field with something mind-blowing, I like the way this RB6 is taking shape =D>

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I can't help but imagine that that supertight ass will see them good for 2011 and the RB7. Do remember that out of the single-diffuser cars last year the bulls were quite unmatchable :twisted:
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raymondu999 wrote:I can't help but imagine that that supertight ass will see them good for 2011 and the RB7. Do remember that out of the single-diffuser cars last year the bulls were quite unmatchable :twisted:
True. With some hefty restrictions on diffusers for next year and the closing of the loopholes found for 2009 it's a complete about-face. I look forward to that as it'll be very interesting.

We haven't even started 2010 and we're so sad we're already speculating about 2011! :twisted:

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StrFerrari4Ever wrote:One thing's for sure Newey is planning to hit the entire field with something mind-blowing, I like the way this RB6 is taking shape =D>
Better prepare to be disappointed then as there won't be any further major updates to the car for a few races now. Minor evolutions and tweaks for each of the flyaways but that's about it.

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horse wrote:
timbo wrote:Seems like Newey's style. He used blown diffusers a lot in '90s.
Can we imply that the potential link between the radiators and the diffuser is now broken? Could this possibly be replaced by an external inlet to the diffuser from the exhausts?

This car is getting quite extreme in appearance. Super low exhausts (potential hazard on curbs?) and a massive cooling orifice.
I would say Yes to the first question. But the second question, maybes they they have now found that their diffuser works better with warmer air passing over it. Not to mention the fact that it could provide masses of added turbulence for the following car, and have the secondry thing that we saw Renault introduce on the R28 in 2008 towards the end of the season, heating the rear tyres, as Red Bull may have gone slightly too far in the other way to last years car where it heated the tyres really easy and now with this, heats them and keeps them hot. Id say this could be more advantagous in a saftey car start as the rears will give grip alot quicker than before.

I think the RB6 and STR5 are already looking like the more extreme looking cars on the grid. But thats what Newey is good at, getting the more extreme ideas on a car before any of the others, look at the the previous rule changes;

* Flat Bottom Cars, the FW14 was a rocket ship, then he went on to design the FW16 that was a superb car.
* Narrow Track, the MP4/12 was revolutonary, this was the start of McLaren again, also desidned the lineage of car that got Hamilton his champoinship with the MP4/18 in effect.

Also, what he done on such a small budget with Leyton House.

I think theres more to come from the mind of Adrian Newey. As this year he resumes his battle with his biggest oponnent, Michael Schumacher.

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With no tyre warmers the tyres new take some laps to come up to temperature, so warming the tyres this way could also be a direct benefit to getting the car up to speed quickly after a pit stop ie if that's what the exhaust is doing.
It also seems to have an effect on the diffuser, but we need another angle to see what's the interaction between the upper level and the exhausts.
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But if they do indeed heat the tyres then for the rest of the time it would be a disadvantage.

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djones wrote:But if they do indeed heat the tyres then for the rest of the time it would be a disadvantage.
Yep. So it's more for the diffuser and rear wing then. Wonder if they are using this in Bahrain?
Vettel better keep it off the curbs this time. :P
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RB6 still looks quick, Webbo's best time was only 2/100ths slower Hamiltons and 4/100ths faster than Massa's. 8)
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ringo wrote:With no tyre warmers the tyres new take some laps to come up to temperature, so warming the tyres this way could also be a direct benefit to getting the car up to speed quickly after a pit stop ie if that's what the exhaust is doing.
It also seems to have an effect on the diffuser, but we need another angle to see what's the interaction between the upper level and the exhausts.
is it a good idea to warm the rears ? I always thought it was the fronts they had the trouble to get temps up quickly and maintain..

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Looks to me as if the exhausts are aiming straight to the back. They're only cut diagonally to fit the regulations because they may not protrude the bodywork.

Quite an extreme solution. Looking forward to analysis from Scarbs. Would be interesting to learn what exactly Newey is doing there. And I was already thinking there would be nothing revolutionary this year.