USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

[marcush.]

we have to consider that for most of us it is a view from outside and it is always easier to be dead serious and straight when you are not actually in the eye of the storm.
I´m absolutely positive that it is helping a forum very much when opposing views are
told and published ,in no way this very thread would have had more live in it than the team itself ,as it seemed at times.

but then you have to think about those guys who actually took the gamble and went to work there... this is a tough nut to crack for them ...see eric warren twit.
he still seems financially safe ,but i bet others will not have that luxury and will have to try and not get drowned as well ...that is the real shame.

I really would have preferred them to have got over this baptism of fire and it is quite easy to say I would have done better ,but do we even know a bit of what really went on ?

[xpensive]

Don't get me wrong now, but we should perhaps not go overboard here, 50 people losing their jobs is always a drag,
but I would be surprised if anyone of them thought of USF1 as kind of a lifetime employment Japanese-style?

[Fil]

Don't get me wrong now, but we should perhaps not go overboard here, 50 people losing their jobs is always a drag,
but I would be surprised if anyone of them thought of USF1 as kind of a lifetime employment Japanese-style?

Didn't one of the 2 head weasels recently say a majority of the aero dept was on short-term contracts ending at season start.. and then the race team's contracts would start for the season?

Any loss of employment is sad, but in perspective, a lot more jobs were lost with Brawn's downsizing in early 09.

[marcush.]

sure enough ,I know how this situation is in real world terms.
So you took a decision to go somewhere and as soon as month 3 or 4 is coming the pacyroll starts to get an issue...so you start to look elswhere ,as you always do in racing ,but in 4 months you did not earn enough to make a no loss situation out of this ,with moving ,some days or weeks without a income and now going elsewhere ,season planning s done for all other opportunities of course ...so its some less than attractive stop gap job ,in the current situation in USA...

[Pandamasque]

Any loss of employment is sad, but in perspective, a lot more jobs were lost with Brawn's downsizing in early 09.

But Brawns employees didn't have to move with their families to another continent just a few months before that.

[xpensive]

Any loss of employment is sad, but in perspective, a lot more jobs were lost with Brawn's downsizing in early 09.

But Brawns employees didn't have to move with their families to another continent just a few months before that.

I don't know how many individuals did just that, but either way, if you are a professional within F1, you should probably
be aware of the risks with a start-up team during this time of downsizing within every team on the grid.

Don't get me wrong, KA is still an sob if you ask me, but at the end of the day, we're all accountable for our actions.

[Belatti]

but at the end of the day, we're all accountable for our actions.

Amen

[ArchAngel]

...Don't get me wrong, KA is still an sob if you ask me, but at the end of the day, we're all accountable for our actions.

Yep. Let's start a'counting with PeeWee and Kenderson... Anybody got a van and a baseball bat?

[xpensive]

...Don't get me wrong, KA is still an sob if you ask me, but at the end of the day, we're all accountable for our actions.

Yep. Let's start a'counting with PeeWee and Kenderson... Anybody got a van and a baseball bat?

Point taken.

[Chaparral]

Excuse my French but what a f..kin load of --- that is being spouted in this thread from a bunch of armchair cowboys who have no idea - X obviously is a very successful engineer so much so he's engineered so much free time to post one of the highest postings on the thread and some real vitriolic crap - in reality he flipped a coin and it came up heads so he persued that avenue. The bottom line is no-one has a grasp on the truth only those involved with USF1 and perhaps we will never know - nor should we judge - as for Speed TV they have their own concerns with a new CEO David Hill and things are a changing from what I know so maybe there will be some changes there. Would have been great to have a US team in the series but it isnt going to happen anytime soon - neither is a GP return to North America which is more the pity

[raceman]

Even after demise of US F1, this thread is going ways forward [-X

Rather, this thread is used to just pile up the number of posts

isn't it?





(pssstt, I just had one added to my total posts count here..... )

[xpensive]

Excuse my French but what a f..kin load of --- that is being spouted in this thread from a bunch of armchair cowboys who have no idea - X obviously is a very successful engineer so much so he's engineered so much free time to post one of the highest postings on the thread and some real vitriolic crap - in reality he flipped a coin and it came up heads so he persued that avenue. The bottom line is no-one has a grasp on the truth only those involved with USF1 and perhaps we will never know - nor should we judge - as for Speed TV they have their own concerns with a new CEO David Hill and things are a changing from what I know so maybe there will be some changes there. Would have been great to have a US team in the series but it isnt going to happen anytime soon - neither is a GP return to North America which is more the pity

Well, well, well, here's someone who's coin clearly came up the wrong side...told you not to PUI, Chap!

[Chaparral]

X no I didnt have a punt on the USF1 outfit making or breaking I just took the facts or what I knew from Speed and everything was on track in early December - you took the breaking route from day 1 - answer me this Grasshopper - how come you have so much time to post on this forum - geez Whiteblue is threatened by your post count and Gugz (Whiteblue) actually these days offers some reasonable arguments you my friend do not just one line quips - which are not funny nor informed - thanks Thomas

Regards

Steve

[djos]

Even after demise of US F1, this thread is going ways forward [-X

Rather, this thread is used to just pile up the number of posts

isn't it?





(pssstt, I just had one added to my total posts count here..... )

Thanks, I was wondering if this topic had a point!

[Fil]

Excuse my French but what a f..kin load of --- that is being spouted in this thread from a bunch of armchair cowboys who have no idea..

The bottom line is no-one has a grasp on the truth only those involved with USF1 and perhaps we will never know - nor should we judge..

Would have been great to have a US team in the series but it isnt going to happen anytime soon - neither is a GP return to North America which is more the pity

Chap, this is an online forum, of course we're all armchair cowboys.

As for the bottom line, well we can have a grasp of the news that is released from various parties that are involved. Then its a jigsaw puzzle with pieces missing. We will judge with the information at hand. these judgments change as pieces are added. I see nothing wrong with that, as long as we are big enough to admit our misjudgments later.
If we all reserved our judgments until all information was known, F1T's forum would not exist.

No one is dismissing that it would be great to have a US team in F1, just the current blokes haven't really shown much to foster public belief in them being the right ones to do so.