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rich1701 wrote:The livery is one of the worst I can remember in F1.
+100 :D

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They must surely be waiting for Repsol sponsorship or Telefonica or Cepsa or some big Spanish national company. I expect (nee hope) the livery to be updated in a couple of races.

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vall wrote:
rich1701 wrote:The livery is one of the worst I can remember in F1.
+100 :D
Then you dont remember this
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This car looked like the stickers had be put on using a cannon!

Atleast the Campos (or whatever it is now) car is clean.

But i do agree its not a pretty car. But it maybe the lighting is making it look worse than it is.
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rich1701 wrote:The livery is one of the worst I can remember in F1.
You are too young then! :)
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Considering Dallara is quite experienced at producing open-wheeled cars (A1GP and IRL, I believe?) I wonder if they'll fare better at this than Gascoyne or Wirth. Front wing wise they sure look uglier though :shock:

And I wonder who will develop the car. Dallara, or HRT? Aren't customer cars actually banned? How does this work? :?:
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raymondu999 wrote: And I wonder who will develop the car. Dallara, or HRT? Aren't customer cars actually banned? How does this work? :?:
When you buy the car from a company outside Formula 1, it is not banned I guess. However you (F1 team) are not allowed to buy chassis from other F1 teams - that is why Toro Rosso was forced to build its own car instead of using Red Bull one this year.
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raymondu999 wrote:And I wonder who will develop the car. Dallara, or HRT? Aren't customer cars actually banned? How does this work? :?:
Design & development is eventually planned to be inhouse in 2011 or 2012. until then, its Dallara's job.
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Outsourcing is allowed...it's still HRT's car, but it's made by their partner company.
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Interesting... then Dallara would allow all the data from 2010 to go to HRT?
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thestig84 wrote: Outer_bonglia have you seen the lotus!?
The front of the sidepod is tight, but at the center (the widest point), it comes virtually straight down, as you can see in this angle:
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But when you look at it from front, you see the tight little Renault-shaped entrance:
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Comparing it to Lotus, you can see that even they have some undercut under those massive air intakes:
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Of course, after Fiat 131, the new Lotus has the label of being the boxiest car, you could set up a dinner table on the sidepods and nothing would tilt or fall..

But Hispania is definitely very close. It looks like the designers were working really hard from the front nose cone to just past the sidepot inlets. Then, they ran out of time and slapped a rear and some wings on to the car.
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Senna "For example, we’ll be starting out with suspension components made of metal instead of carbon fibre, so the car will weigh 20 kilos more than we would have liked,"

could they not have made car lighter elsewhere and added ballast later?

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neilbah wrote:Senna "For example, we’ll be starting out with suspension components made of metal instead of carbon fibre, so the car will weigh 20 kilos more than we would have liked,"

could they not have made car lighter elsewhere and added ballast later?

So the steel wishbones weigh 20 kilos more than carbon fibre items.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
so lets face the hurting truth .drivers are drivers and possibly not engineers ...they could make the car faster though... by not trying to improve the car but the spacer (between steering wheel and seatshell).

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"Lotus and Virgin were in Barcelona, just a good second faster than the GP2 cars, of which Dallara has indeed all the data," Bruno Senna said in his column for Motorsport Magazin. "And we should be faster according to their calculations right away at least two seconds as the GP2 ...
Thats a bit silly on Bruno's part i think

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marcush. wrote:
neilbah wrote:Senna "For example, we’ll be starting out with suspension components made of metal instead of carbon fibre, so the car will weigh 20 kilos more than we would have liked,"

could they not have made car lighter elsewhere and added ballast later?

So the steel wishbones weigh 20 kilos more than carbon fibre items.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
so lets face the hurting truth .drivers are drivers and possibly not engineers ...they could make the car faster though... by not trying to improve the car but the spacer (between steering wheel and seatshell).
I think he was saying the total is 20kg due to lots of things, the suspension being one of them. He did say 'for example'.

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:arrow: http://en.espnf1.com/campos/motorsport/story/10231.html

isn't about 100km of shakedown allowed to the teams?? I mean, at least some of the very basic problems could get sorted out in the shakedown run itself; let alone FP1..... :roll: