could NOS match with water injection system?

[Scania]

normally, when nos is used, it must supply more fuel to engine or the mixture will too lean & broke the engine.

Could NOS match with water injection system like that: When n2o gas is supplying, the fuel supply won't changh, so the mixture will too lean & the temperture of combuction chamber will very high, so the water injection will work at the same time with NOS, although the is lean burnning, the water will absorb the heat & supply power by steam.

will it work if we ignore the the engine will easily to rust?

[Jersey Tom]

What would the point be? If you're not adding fuel you're not releasing any more combustion energy, no?

Mo' (combusted) fuel.. mo' power.

[Scania]

What would the point be? If you're not adding fuel you're not releasing any more combustion energy, no?

Mo' (combusted) fuel.. mo' power.

NOS make lean burn, lean burn make high temp, water absorb heat, become to steam, & push the piston, is it wrong?

[il-Vec]

The only thing N2O does is to supply is oxygen at a far higher density (compared to air, even compressed), so just adding oxygen alone does nothing for engine power. Now when you inject water to cool the mixture, its vaporisation does exert a force on the piston but:

1. For the amount of water injected, that force is negligible (it isn't a steam engine, after all)
2. If you inject N2O to then inject H20 to finally make power, why inject N2O in the first place? Might as well add fuel to the N2O and be done with it

[Scania]

The only thing N2O does is to supply is oxygen at a far higher density (compared to air, even compressed), so just adding oxygen alone does nothing for engine power. Now when you inject water to cool the mixture, its vaporisation does exert a force on the piston but:

1. For the amount of water injected, that force is negligible (it isn't a steam engine, after all)
2. If you inject N2O to then inject H20 to finally make power, why inject N2O in the first place? Might as well add fuel to the N2O and be done with it

how about if I mix it with 50% water & 50% Methanol?

[DaveKillens]

NO2 is provides oxygen, one of the two essential ingredients in making power. The second ingredient is fuel. So when you add NO2, you have to add fuel.

If you do, you are going to have a lot of extra power.

If you add NO2 and water, no extra power, just a lot of steam coming out the tailpipe. Until the engines dies a nasty death from running too lean.

[Flummo]

how about if I mix it with 50% water & 50% Methanol?

Water injection is generally used to keep an engine away from "blowup mode" by cooling and calming down the cumbustion. Adding more water than absolutely needed will cool it down too much = costing power, basically the same thing as aiming a fire extinguisher down the engines inlet.

A way too lean burn may be hot, but it is either too slow or a detonation. Neither will let your engine stay in one piece.

When used the conventional way water injection allowes you to use slightly higher compression/boost than your fuels octane rating normally would allow, so basically it's function is the same as a octane booster.

Methanol has higher octane rating than just about any other fuel, and it also absorbs huge amounts of heat when it vapourizes so it cools down the engine. Thus, pure methanol will do the same job as the water in a normal water injection application. However, it does also burn, and unlike water the amount of methanol does not have to be very precise - one of the good things about meth is that it burns just fine even when running quite rich.

It is possible to run the car on one fuel, cheap low octane pump gas for example, and use another small tank of high octane race fuel to the nitrous system. That way, when the engine needs high octane it gets some together with the nitrous, and for normal driving it only uses cheap pump gas.