Bahrain GP 2010 - BIC

[jaslfc]

not the best ive seen but great to have F1 back and i watched on HD, simply awesome!!
F1 on HD is the way to go!

[manchild]

That wasn't oil leak, that was oil flush/overflow within the engine. Oil went into cylinders and got combusted. Most likely, it went from engine block via vent into air box (below air filter) and got sucked in. Pretty common thing in F1 just after start.

An outer leak on the exhaust would create much less smoke.

[Mysticf1]

http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/00530

Sebastian Vettel did not suffer an exhaust problem according to the Red Bull team, but rather an engine problem.

[Just_a_fan]

So far behind that Hamilton was on the pace all the way through the race once he got by Rosberg at the tyre change.

He was't matching the Ferraris or the Red Bulls on pace at all through the race, the two up front were still the thick-end of a second ahead early on and as the condition of the tyres started to vary more widely between cars only then did you start seeing all sorts of teams setting fastest times. Kubica had one at one stage, but they won't be feeling warm fuzzies about that at Enstone. Hamilton wasn't exactly getting held up by Rosberg either as he claims.

I guess you weren't using the live timing info from formula1.com then. In the dozen laps after the pitstop Hamilton was consistently averaging 1second / lap faster than Nico. He was hustling Nico before the stop too. He was being held up.

Also, in the middle of the race Hamilton was within a tenth of a second of the three guys in front of him and quite often quicker than them too lap on lap. Sure lots of people got fastest laps on one off laps but Hamilton, like the front three at that point was consistently fast. In the last 10 laps he was faster than Massa too who had to go in to fuel / tyre saving mode (he claims - presumably to cover the fact that Alonso left him for dead).

He wasn't going to beat Vettel without a mishap, and a mishap duly happened.

Alonso was shaping up very nicely to have a go at Vettel even before the RB decided it couldn't take the strain and wanted to go home early for a lie down

[Pup]

"Save your wheels isn't racing". Yeah, sure.

Heaven protect all us. Good idea: put a 1.000 gallon tank on the cars and paper bond tyres on the wheels.

Why didn't we think of it before spending a gazillion euros on the cars? And, over all, you must have thought that before unanimity were required to change regulations.

People, if there is something that has to be spiced up are the recurrent complains about F1 spectacle. If you're going to whine, please, don't be as boring as... well, you know as what: as my posts.

The only way you can enjoy a race is in the cockpit. All the rest is race porn.

Don't overestimate yourself, Ciro. This race was far more boring than anything you've written. Though I admit to making it through the race. But thank god for Tivo and fast-forward.

Regardless, if its porn then today we got Cinemax. But now I'm confused. My wife went back to bed halfway into the race - was she as bored as I was, or was F1 just working it's magic? Am I in the doghouse? I never know.

Complaints about the spectacle? I thought the complaints were about the lack thereof. There was a day, you know, when my only complaint was with the incessant complaints about tire wars, disposable engines, how refueling had eliminated overtaking, etc. All the things that folk like WB wished for. Be careful about that, so they say.

Ah well, what's to discuss really? It has indeed become an endurance race, oddly spread out over six to eight weeks until they're rationed another engine, and there's little any of us can do but whine.

[Just_a_fan]

Given the performance differential once Hamilton got past him, where he was around 1 second a lap quicker than Rosberg, then it wouldn't be unfair to expect him to have been on a similar pace to the leaders during the first stint.

Clutch away if you like. They were set during a period of the race where everyone set fastest times when we got some serious tyre differences, and even Kubica ended up having a fastest lap at some point. The fact is that they were a country mile off in qualifying with all things being equal, but hiding behind supposed race pace always sounds good when you're on the back foot.

Which race were you watching? Hamilton and Rosberg pitted two laps apart. For the following 12 or so laps, Hamilton put about 12 seconds on Rosberg. They were both on new tyres so where do you get the idea that "serious tyre differences" played any part?

And as for "hiding behind race pace" - you do realise that there aren't any points for qualifying, don't you? Race pace and the results that come with it are the ultimate indicators of the quality of the car. A car that's quick in qualifying and then crap in the race (or breaks in the race!) is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

The RB6 could be the quickest F1 car ever made (you wish!) but if it keeps breaking it may as well be a sofa...

[segedunum]

http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/00530

Sebastian Vettel did not suffer an exhaust problem according to the Red Bull team, but rather an engine problem.

Oh dear. The only saving grace is that Ferrari are changing their engines because of fuel efficiency.

[raymondu999]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82153
Autosport's just written on it

[raymondu999]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82153
Autosport's just written on it

[roost89]

John Noble says that it's a fauly spark plug.

Such a rubbish thing to happen!

[nacho]

I'm actually happy to hear that it was only a spark plug!

[manchild]

I think nobody mentioned Petrov. Having in mind that it was his first race in Bahrain, and that he is a rookie, he was simply amazing. Unfortunately, broken suspension ended his race at p11 after starting 17th.

[raymondu999]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82156
Autosport claims that Helmut Marko is also calling on the spark plug as the problem.

[roost89]

I have to agree with Pup on some level.

There's little good with F1 when it comes to excitement, but was there ever? Jacque Villeneuve pointed this out on the Radio 5 commentary, even in the (good) old days there was little to be excited about. Sure I can conjure a list of highlights where it was great. He claimed that the lack of excitement was due to the cars use of aerodynamics being the major way of attaining speed.

The proposed rule of making 2 stopping mandatory will make it even worse! All that's gonna change is when to stop. Takes another variable out.


Personally, I believe they used a pretty boring track to start the season on. Gladly, it's now out of the way.
The only upside was having a few mistakes which livened it up. There _was_ also some good overtaking for position! I remember a certain Hulk sneaking past Heikki for position while Heikki was being lapped. That was good. A few overtakes down the straight, can't remember who.

The TV just doesn't capture the good bits. However there were a few:

Snap-oversteer on Hulks car.
The hunt from Alonso on Vettel.
The hunt from Rosberg on Vettel
Ruby vs Buemi (if it was Buemi) that was a laps worth of close racing.

Watching the Renault mechanics trying to fix a problem with Vitalys' car
Watching the smoke pile out of Webbers' car
The wonder of what was causing the problem of Vettels' car.

Watching the Lotus cross the line.
Wondering how long the Hispania cars would last

Increased Team Radio.

[segedunum]

John Noble says that it's a fauly spark plug.

Christ. I don't know what Renault are supplying Red Bull with, but they're going to have to be read the riot act. Since RB is their best chance of actually winning I don't know what they're doing.