Red Bull RB6

[autogyro]

unless they readjusted it for park ferme

Ooh, you cynical thing!

But now I come to think about it.... it's not beyond the realms of possibilities that the "adjustment" could be wound back during the final in-lap I suppose, but that would surely be illegal if the DRIVER was operating it.

Would there be anything to prevent such a system from having some form of heat-dependent component which when the car has cooled down for a bit would spring the car back up after having wound down throughout the race distance?

From memory, Ted Kravitz went to Park Ferme some time AFTER the end of the race.

The picture does seem to show a fairley high undertray and I am sure it was skimming the ground as the car went over the finish line.

[forty-two]

unless they readjusted it for park ferme

Ooh, you cynical thing!

But now I come to think about it.... it's not beyond the realms of possibilities that the "adjustment" could be wound back during the final in-lap I suppose, but that would surely be illegal if the DRIVER was operating it.

Would there be anything to prevent such a system from having some form of heat-dependent component which when the car has cooled down for a bit would spring the car back up after having wound down throughout the race distance?

From memory, Ted Kravitz went to Park Ferme some time AFTER the end of the race.

The picture does seem to show a fairley high undertray and I am sure it was skimming the ground as the car went over the finish line.

Oh no! GIBLET what have you done! It's gonna be another exclusive for F1Technical!

[autogyro]

Little grey cells eh Giblet?

[Giblet]

There is a snorkel in the bottom of Vettel's seat, than contains pressure, keeping the car low when fuel is running out. When he exits the car, the pressure is released as he gets up from the seat.

On second though it could be for cooling.....

[djos]

Btw folks, Hamilton was heard over the radio saying that Vettel's car sounded like it wasn't firing on all cylinders, if that isn't prove of a failed spark plug I don't know what is?

[ringo]

Is it just the perspective of the shot, or does it look like the floor is actually scraping the rear tyres?

It's not scraping the tyres, but it's almost touching. That's another way to get downforce.
The reasoning behind it is that the tyre has a stagnation point in front of it, where the pressure is very high. This pressure can be used to create down-force when coupled with the suction under the floor.
In another sense it is a way of scavenging off the drag created by the wheels and making down force out of it. This improves lift to drag ratio.

Here is a pressure plot i did of a moving wheel, notice the high pressure infront:

[Giblet]

Little grey cells eh Giblet?

That reference sailed right over my head... enlighten me please sir.

[djos]

that bit with the yellow arrow pointing to it simply looks like a small turning vane to me as it is uniform in shape and size and looks fixed in place.

[segedunum]

Little grey cells eh Giblet?

That reference sailed right over my head... enlighten me please sir.

Hercules Poirot and all that - Belgian's famous, fictional, detective.

The general consensus is that Red Bull are doing........something. Just a visual look at the car towards the end of the race certainly looked as if there was less daylight underneath than other cars and at the start. That's completely subjective though. The problem is that Red Bull couldn't push their cars at the end of the race so no one could compare. If they both last in Australia and speed up towards the end of the race in a really marked way, and more so than Ferrari did, then the intrigue will circulate. Maybe they will just go slow if they're miles ahead towards the end?

It's not really controversial and no surprise at all if something is up. Ride height was always going to be an easy way of gaining lap time later in the race given the amount of fuel they start with. It always has been with this no-refuelling format.

[marcush.]

with the floor so close to the tyre ...Wasn´t a few years back a new rule implemented to actually increase the airgap between tyre and floor?

[autogyro]

that bit with the yellow arrow pointing to it simply looks like a small turning vane to me as it is uniform in shape and size and looks fixed in place.

Of course the undertray may be close to the wheel and acting like a scrapper on the stone covered tyre,(which is why the tray is covered with stones etc) because the ride height has risen to the top of its travel.
When the ride height is down and the undertray is skimming the ground there is a far larger gap between the tyre and the tray edge. It was like this when the car crossed the finish line. In the picture it is up as far as it can go without touching the tyre.

[autogyro]

Is it just the perspective of the shot, or does it look like the floor is actually scraping the rear tyres?

It's not scraping the tyres, but it's almost touching. That's another way to get downforce.
The reasoning behind it is that the tyre has a stagnation point in front of it, where the pressure is very high. This pressure can be used to create down-force when coupled with the suction under the floor.
In another sense it is a way of scavenging off the drag created by the wheels and making down force out of it. This improves lift to drag ratio.

Here is a pressure plot i did of a moving wheel, notice the high pressure infront:

Sorry ringo but most of the tyre is not behind the undertray edge.
The effect would be minimal (sorry Adrian)

[volarchico]

Sorry ringo but most of the tyre is not behind the undertray edge.
The effect would be minimal (sorry Adrian)

I actually agree with ringo on this one. There is a high pressure area in front of the tire which would push down on the floor there.

[Giblet]

The spot below the little turning vane/flipup looks like a notch. A lot of room for the end of the arm where the suspension travel would be most minimal.

Of course the car needs adjustment to ride high during rain, but that seems like a lot of room.

[scarbs]

The yellow arrow is pointing to the opening for the pull rod\top wishbone, This hole is missing the small carbon piece to tightly enlose the pushrod\wishbone ends. RBR have removed this, presumably for cooling earlier in the weekend. A similar closing panel gets ftted to the rear leg of the wishbone too, its absent on this photo, but was present earlier in the weekend. The other bits visible inside the hole are heat sheilding around the exhausts, which looked tatty even on Saturday. Comparing the two pics, there's no evidence of heat damage to bodywork pointed out by the yellow arrow.

I have a better pic, but copyright prevents me posting it here.

BTW: The pic also confirmed the small window that allows the exhaust to blow into the diffuser (not clear in one of earlier pics).