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Let’s put a budget cap on all the teams. Spending $400 million a year is crazy and you still have no guarantee that you will still win.
•$100 million dollar budget cap
•Unlimited amount of engine use
-Let the teams go back to using engines for just qualifying and engines for the race.
•Melt the engine freeze
•Bring back turbo engines
•Qualify with everyone on the track fasted time gets the pole and so on.
•New Point system. Points are awarded 1st to 6th place. Also you get a point for pole position, leading the most laps and fastest lap of the day.
•Whole new euro package shorten the front wing and make the rear wing cover the rear tires only like Max wanted
•Make the nose of the car more pointier and downward
•Get rid of the paddle shifters shift by hand shifter
•An American race at Daytona
•Goodyear vs. Michelin tires
•Broadcasting more footage in the pits
•Bring some of the old race tracks back
•Race in the streets of Manhattan and Miami
People don't understand that it was maybe my biggest pleasure to drive an F1 car when it's wet. - Alain Prost
i have to admit the tyre war is good like 2006 ferrari vs renault michlin vs bridge like hungrey bridestone was crap in wet at start the when track was drying it was the better tyre, vise vesa
Maybe it's all about the boorish folks managing things:
Bernie Ecclestone told The Guardian that bringing F1 back to the U.S. is a distinct possibility BUT, he added, "It's only the fact that it's all the wrong crowd and the wrong people... nothing worked there really, we'd have to have a big change round. But we'd like to get back there."
I would wait a bit before applying some dramatic changes to tyres or another regulations. OK, I agree that the less downforce is necessary and I hope rules for next year will sufficiently reduce it. But maybe the teams will find in this year rules the possibility to use another strategies than one stop and fuel conservation.
I've noticed that after the tyre change the driver was lapping 2 or even 4 seconds faster. It's said that such difference in pace is enough to pass even under current aerodynamic regulations. So a good driver after his pitstop would overtake those who didn't stopped for tyres.
Also the fastest laps were way slower than the qualifying times, probably because of tyre wear and fuel saving at the end of the race. This suggests that the more aggressive strategy, with more fuel at the start and more tyre changes could possibly cause the car being faster enough to regain places lost during pitstop and because of heavier car at the start. I hope someone will be brave enough to try this.
I've said it before, but a supoort race before the GP with all the current drivers, some retired ones, and the testers, in the same style as the BMW Procar Series of old, would at least guarantee some close racing and fan entertainment even if the race is boring.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute
After reading many opinions, and putting in a couple of my own ideas as well:
Some suggestions:
New Tyre War:
1) 2 different tyre manufactureres
* Each tyre manufacturer will produce 2 different compounds each season, a hard and a soft for slick dry tyres, one intermediate and one wet tyre compound as well.
* Teams must choose whitch tyre barand they wish to use before the season.
* Teams may not stay with a brand for more than 2 consecutive seasons.
* Each driver will be given a set of each compound of each tyre for each session, with 2 soft compounds for quali, with no new sets for the race. 9 Sets of slicks per driver, 5 sets of wets and inters will be allocated to each driver each weekend.
* The price has to be right for each manufacturer, a year should cost no more than $50 million.
2) Teams need to be cost capped, or restricted shomehow.
* Could the only way for this to happen be to have the FIA "appoint" official suppliers, and do how the GP2 guys do it and anything has to be purchaced from those "appointed suppliers" who reveal how much each team has spent.
* Limit each team to $60 million from those suppliers.
3) Quali to be simmilar, but different.
* Quali 1 and 2 will be carried out as per normal.
* Quali 3 will be changed to each driver having to compete in a "Shootout" Quali 3, Fastest driver in Q2 will out first.
* Out and in laps mist be made within 120% of drivers time in Q2.
4) Cars need to be cleaned up alot;
* Mechanical grip to be reduced even futher, take another 25mm off the front tyres and 35mm off the rear tyre widths.
* Front wings need to be lifted to 2008 heights, and narrowed to 1.4meters wide
* Rear diffusers need to become wider, but the wing needs to be less deep, Monza like.
* Difusers need to be sorted.
* Try and homologate the engine cooling systems, as we need the cars to be able to keep their engines cool when following other cars, as many engines, especially the Ferarri according to many sources (Just look at Alonso at Bahrain following Vettel), just to have more close laps of racing.
5) Others
* We need to look at refueling again, a single NASCAR 20KG fuel can/stop for cars should allowed, but the penalty for this is you only stop for fuel.
* The points system needs revamping, again, back to 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 please, but make second 7 points. If you want to give out a "lead medal" points for the lower cars, make it for most overtakes on the race track.
* Power asist systems to be standardised, make them less powerful to give the bigger and stonger drivers a edge of the smaller lighter drivers. If that can be some how done.
* Try and get at least one more engine supplier and manufacturer in the sport, im sure that if the price was right, Toyota or Honda would come back as a engine only supplyer, and if VW/Audi get involved, all the better.
6) Tracks
* Tracks with multiple layouts should be changed every year.
* 22 GPs a year maximum.
* We need to look at track layout, get some of the gracks shorter somehow, but some also need to be lengthened as well. Not to mention looking at overtaking zones.
Two leading technical experts - former Jaguar Racing chief Tony Purnell and esteemed ex-Lotus and BRM engineer Peter Wright - muse some of the causes behind the soporific start to F1 2010.
They have offered some reasons behind the lack of spectacle in the 2010 Bahrain Grand Prix at Sakhir at the weekend – claiming that 'the cars are not good racing cars, the formula is badly-designed' and most damningly of all, that 'the will to please the public really isn't there'.
F1 technical experts have offered some reasons behind the lack of spectacle in the 2010 Bahrain Grand Prix at Sakhir at the weekend – claiming that 'the cars are not good racing cars, the formula is badly-designed' and, most damningly of all, that 'the will to please the public really isn't there'.
Please feel free to post you opinion on whether F1 needs to be improved and suggestions of how it can be. It would also be interesting to read opinions on why F1 seems to be in a poor way.
ESPImperium wrote:After reading many opinions, and putting in a couple of my own ideas as well:
Some suggestions:
New Tyre War:
1) 2 different tyre manufactureres
* Each tyre manufacturer will produce 2 different compounds each season, a hard and a soft for slick dry tyres, one intermediate and one wet tyre compound as well.
* Teams must choose whitch tyre barand they wish to use before the season.
* Teams may not stay with a brand for more than 2 consecutive seasons.
* Each driver will be given a set of each compound of each tyre for each session, with 2 soft compounds for quali, with no new sets for the race. 9 Sets of slicks per driver, 5 sets of wets and inters will be allocated to each driver each weekend.
* The price has to be right for each manufacturer, a year should cost no more than $50 million.
2) Teams need to be cost capped, or restricted shomehow.
* Could the only way for this to happen be to have the FIA "appoint" official suppliers, and do how the GP2 guys do it and anything has to be purchaced from those "appointed suppliers" who reveal how much each team has spent.
* Limit each team to $60 million from those suppliers.
3) Quali to be simmilar, but different.
* Quali 1 and 2 will be carried out as per normal.
* Quali 3 will be changed to each driver having to compete in a "Shootout" Quali 3, Fastest driver in Q2 will out first.
* Out and in laps mist be made within 120% of drivers time in Q2.
4) Cars need to be cleaned up alot;
* Mechanical grip to be reduced even futher, take another 25mm off the front tyres and 35mm off the rear tyre widths.
* Front wings need to be lifted to 2008 heights, and narrowed to 1.4meters wide
* Rear diffusers need to become wider, but the wing needs to be less deep, Monza like.
* Difusers need to be sorted.
* Try and homologate the engine cooling systems, as we need the cars to be able to keep their engines cool when following other cars, as many engines, especially the Ferarri according to many sources (Just look at Alonso at Bahrain following Vettel), just to have more close laps of racing.
5) Others
* We need to look at refueling again, a single NASCAR 20KG fuel can/stop for cars should allowed, but the penalty for this is you only stop for fuel.
* The points system needs revamping, again, back to 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 please, but make second 7 points. If you want to give out a "lead medal" points for the lower cars, make it for most overtakes on the race track.
* Power asist systems to be standardised, make them less powerful to give the bigger and stonger drivers a edge of the smaller lighter drivers. If that can be some how done.
* Try and get at least one more engine supplier and manufacturer in the sport, im sure that if the price was right, Toyota or Honda would come back as a engine only supplyer, and if VW/Audi get involved, all the better.
6) Tracks
* Tracks with multiple layouts should be changed every year.
* 22 GPs a year maximum.
* We need to look at track layout, get some of the gracks shorter somehow, but some also need to be lengthened as well. Not to mention looking at overtaking zones.
Just some suggestions.
I like your suggestions especially with the tyres.
People don't understand that it was maybe my biggest pleasure to drive an F1 car when it's wet. - Alain Prost
Green - I agree. Could be an improvement.
Blue - I don't see how this would make things any better.
Red - Think this would cause more harm than good.
ESPImperium wrote:After reading many opinions, and putting in a couple of my own ideas as well:
Some suggestions:
New Tyre War:
1) 2 different tyre manufactureres * Each tyre manufacturer will produce 2 different compounds each season, a hard and a soft for slick dry tyres, one intermediate and one wet tyre compound as well. * Teams must choose whitch tyre barand they wish to use before the season. * Teams may not stay with a brand for more than 2 consecutive seasons. * Each driver will be given a set of each compound of each tyre for each session, with 2 soft compounds for quali, with no new sets for the race. 9 Sets of slicks per driver, 5 sets of wets and inters will be allocated to each driver each weekend.
* The price has to be right for each manufacturer, a year should cost no more than $50 million.
2) Teams need to be cost capped, or restricted shomehow. * Could the only way for this to happen be to have the FIA "appoint" official suppliers, and do how the GP2 guys do it and anything has to be purchaced from those "appointed suppliers" who reveal how much each team has spent. * Limit each team to $60 million from those suppliers.
3) Quali to be simmilar, but different. * Quali 1 and 2 will be carried out as per normal.
* Quali 3 will be changed to each driver having to compete in a "Shootout" Quali 3, Fastest driver in Q2 will out first.
* Out and in laps mist be made within 120% of drivers time in Q2.
4) Cars need to be cleaned up alot; * Mechanical grip to be reduced even futher, take another 25mm off the front tyres and 35mm off the rear tyre widths. * Front wings need to be lifted to 2008 heights, and narrowed to 1.4meters wide * Rear diffusers need to become wider, but the wing needs to be less deep, Monza like.
* Difusers need to be sorted.
* Try and homologate the engine cooling systems, as we need the cars to be able to keep their engines cool when following other cars, as many engines, especially the Ferarri according to many sources (Just look at Alonso at Bahrain following Vettel), just to have more close laps of racing.
5) Others * We need to look at refueling again, a single NASCAR 20KG fuel can/stop for cars should allowed, but the penalty for this is you only stop for fuel. * The points system needs revamping, again, back to 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 please, but make second 7 points. If you want to give out a "lead medal" points for the lower cars, make it for most overtakes on the race track. * Power asist systems to be standardised, make them less powerful to give the bigger and stonger drivers a edge of the smaller lighter drivers. If that can be some how done. * Try and get at least one more engine supplier and manufacturer in the sport, im sure that if the price was right, Toyota or Honda would come back as a engine only supplyer, and if VW/Audi get involved, all the better.
6) Tracks * Tracks with multiple layouts should be changed every year. * 22 GPs a year maximum. * We need to look at track layout, get some of the gracks shorter somehow, but some also need to be lengthened as well. Not to mention looking at overtaking zones.
Just some suggestions.
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I really don't see how any of this talk about the lack of overtaking is going to change until more variables are introduced into formula 1. Every team is working within a formula i.e. aero, tyres & engine. The only reasons that standards were introduced were to cut costs & improve safety; mainly in terms of lowering speeds through aero & engine. So everyone is working within the same restricted domain trying to develop the most efficient equation, when realistically their results achieve the same mathematical limit. How do people honestly expect cars to overtake if they all travel at the same speed? All have the same acceleration? Deceleration?
The engine freeze needs to be removed. If they wish to keep costs & speeds down then potentially look at decreasing engine capacity even lower. Though at the end of the day, no amount of aero/fuel combination will generate as much of an acceleration differential as will the ability to generate more RPM.
As for budget caps for teams, well they might work for football teams but I'd like to think that if you can build an advanced engineering machine, you should be able to manage your funds as well. And if not, then go back to racing in some other category that needs to baby sit your financial officer. This is formula 1.
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