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Surprising differences between fastest laps in qualification and race

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Columns: Position by fastest lap in race, driver, team, fastest qualification lap, fastest lap in race, difference between fastest lap in race and qualification.


Martin Whitmarsh: "You would have expected to have got down close to that, but you were mostly on the prime by that stage. So with 30 odd laps of degradation on it, if you add 0.1s a lap, that’s about 3s of degradation."
There is still much left into 5 sec though!

Nick Fry: “The surprise to me was the huge variation in times, not only car to car, but even in the same car, almost lap to lap. I think that was a bit of a shock, we didn’t expect it to be quite so variable. Again I think we need to understand why that is and what we can do about that.”

The average difference between fastest laps in qualification and race was 5,314 sec in Bahrain.

Source: f1news.cz
http://f1news.cz/novinky/34276-rozdily- ... odbornika/
Last edited by Pedro on 22 Mar 2010, 17:29, edited 3 times in total.
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Mr Alcatraz
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This is mildly surprising! With shot-out tires when the car weights reached the end of the race, and factoring in some runners were in conservation mode you would expect a slightly slower lap. I am a bit surprised that Britney didn't put in a fast lap near the end of the race, as he was in hot pursuit of Vettel. I guess that's all The Merc' had in that situation!
My conclusion is F1 has to reconsider their tire philosophy!
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I still dont understand why somebody didnt put softs on 10 laps from the end and go for it big time. Given the lap times they would have made up for the pitstop and then gained about 10 seconds. Probably.

piast9
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djones wrote:I still dont understand why somebody didnt put softs on 10 laps from the end and go for it big time. Given the lap times they would have made up for the pitstop and then gained about 10 seconds. Probably.
I don't understand it either. Mabye everyone just played safe in the first race with new rules and situation will change in next races.

It is also possible that they just had too little fuel to go big time but it was also due to the safe, low-risk strategies.

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You may have been quicker, but you would still have to be able to pass somebody. The cars that would pass you while you pitted for softs would be nearly impossible to pass, so getting back to your grid spot much less gaining spots would of been a nightmare.

Plus, like was mentioned, they may not wanted to chanced running out of fuel if running 10 hard laps at the end.
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Pedro wrote:Surprising differences between fastest laps in qualification and race

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Columns: Position by fastest lap in race, driver, team, fastest qualification lap, fastest lap in race, difference between fastest lap in race and qualification.


Martin Whitmarsh: "You would have expected to have got down close to that, but you were mostly on the prime by that stage. So with 30 odd laps of degradation on it, if you add 0.1s a lap, that’s about 3s of degradation."
There is still much left into 5 sec though!

Nick Fry: “The surprise to me was the huge variation in times, not only car to car, but even in the same car, almost lap to lap. I think that was a bit of a shock, we didn’t expect it to be quite so variable. Again I think we need to understand why that is and what we can do about that.”

The average difference between fastest laps in qualification and race was 5,314 sec in Bahrain.

Source: f1news.cz
http://f1news.cz/novinky/34276-rozdily- ... odbornika/

there are some quirks to the fastest laptimes in the race.. with alguesuari being 8th fastest but doing his fastest lap already in lap 25 with 24 laps to go ...
also trulli very early on with his fastest lap..in 34..
for Vettel it is obvious..

and some guys doing their fastest in lap 38 as massa... so the reality seems to be masked ...

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marcush wrote:

there are some quirks to the fastest laptimes in the race.. with alguesuari being 8th fastest but doing his fastest lap already in lap 25 with 24 laps to go ...
also trulli very early on with his fastest lap..in 34..
for Vettel it is obvious..

and some guys doing their fastest in lap 38 as massa... so the reality seems to be masked ...
I agree! We need two more races to really see how things start shaking out!
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Pandamasque wrote:Image
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whoa!

quite an effort there to "post" them in between :mrgreen:

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Q: (Ralf Bach - R & B) Christian, I was very surprised last week by learning from Ron Dennis about your real problems in the race in Bahrain with Sebastian. He said your tank is simply too small.

Critian Horner: I guess the problem with age is that your hearing tends to fail you a little bit and perhaps Ron didn’t hear the misfire that was there and probably didn’t see the fact that the other car also finished the race without any issues at all. It wasn’t anything to do with the size of the fuel tank. As I say it was a spark plug issue and that was it.
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What tires did Bridgestone bring to Bahrain? I guess soft and hard?
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andrew
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There are a 2 or 3 I would take out of that photo for lucking into championships or not being true sportsman.

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andrew wrote:There are a 2 or 3 I would take out of that photo for lucking into championships or not being true sportsman.
I agree, but unfortunately the picture isn't "andrew's" or "forty-two's" opinion of who deserved to be champion, rather it's a composite shot of who has been recognised as Driver's World Champion.

It would however be nice to have that kind of control over history, but who should be in charge of the decisions. We are afterall all equal, but some of us are more equal than others??
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andrew wrote:There are a 2 or 3 I would take out of that photo for lucking into championships or not being true sportsman.
I don't see how lucking in to a championship is possible, you don't score vast amounts of points by accident.

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Diesel you do by driving into your main competitor in Japan and you do in a silver Ferrari.