Red Bull RB6

[ESPImperium]

Does anyone know when Renault will introduce its upgraded engines?

Id recon from the next change of engine for each driver, all four of the Renault powered cars have all used 2 engines to after Malaysia. Pretty much means that from Barcelona onward they will run with the upgraded power. The first 2 engines will probably be used for FP1 and FP2 for the rest of the season from there after.

A upgraded engine will probably propell Vettel, Webber and Kubica to an even better posistion on the grid and race. Kubica is turning into the dark horse of the chamionship at current.

[Pandamasque]

Any pics of the revised exhausts they used at Sepang?

[manchild]

Id recon from the next change of engine for each driver, all four of the Renault powered cars have all used 2 engines to after Malaysia...

Nope - http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/erge ... 3/76.shtml

[mitchyboy54]

I wonder if Red Bull will have a "f-duct" to test in China?

I've heard a rumour that they will be testing a few new components, but i'm not sure if this will be one of them.

[Sawtooth-spike]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82741

is this chris playing some poker with the rest of the teams or is it that they really don't have anything?

[segedunum]

is this chris playing some poker with the rest of the teams or is it that they really don't have anything?

He's playing poker with the fact that other teams can't work out what they might be doing. There's a large off-shoot ride height thread around here, and while there are some clever theories no one has any real clue how they would be practically applied to a Formula 1 car. Most of it is existing road car technology that would have to be seriously modified to work there.

I rather suspect they have a suspension system that cleverly keeps the ride height constant, or close to constant, but doesn't change the ride height as an active suspension system would. This means they don't change anything at all between qualifying and the race or at any other point.

Because other teams don't understand this, let alone how to implement it, I suspect they want to 'clarify' the rules so they can put their own quick and dirty manual systems in between qualifying and the race rather than trying to head off anything Red Bull might be doing. Naturally, Red Bull will protest that.

[djos]

Ah the games are afoot!

RedBull really have an ace up their sleeve on this one and if the FIA couldn't find anything in the post race inspection then it must be very well integrated into the dampers. =D>

[BreezyRacer]

It is the highest of complements that the rest of the grid is looking for and devising how RB can be doing something that isn't even there. Newey has to be laughing himself to sleep at night.

BTW, there are some very revealing pics of the Renault diffuser setup in the Renault car thread. It should make even the most jaded aero guy sit up in wonderment. Check it out. Sure wish we had similar pics of the RB!

[autogyro]

It is the highest of complements that the rest of the grid is looking for and devising how RB can be doing something that isn't even there. Newey has to be laughing himself to sleep at night.

BTW, there are some very revealing pics of the Renault diffuser setup in the Renault car thread. It should make even the most jaded aero guy sit up in wonderment. Check it out. Sure wish we had similar pics of the RB!

I am sure Adrian is laughing his head off.
I cannot understand why people think that the other teams cannot work out a constant ride height system within the regulations, I can so it is very unlikely IMO.

[Giblet]

I wonder if Red Bull will have a "f-duct" to test in China?

I've heard a rumour that they will be testing a few new components, but i'm not sure if this will be one of them.

Some stuff about the car.

They are in fact working on their own f-duct right now, but packaging and the inability to change the chassis is going to hinder them.

[autogyro]

I have an idea that Adrian will surprise a few people when the cars hit Europe.

[John Stitch]

Point of interest!

Did not last years RB have torsion bar springs?

Did they not say that this year they were doing away with torsion bars and going to helical springs because of the double diffuser issue?

Do I smell a little bullshit?

[segedunum]

They are in fact working on their own f-duct right now, but packaging and the inability to change the chassis is going to hinder them.

That's what is definitely going to hinder Red Bull and a lot of other teams, because McLaren ensured that they built their chassis with this system in mind. There are definitely packaging and other compromises with this. It's not free.

I found Newey's comments about the safety aspect of this system interesting, which is why I felt that it should have been banned. It obviously has profound effects on the aerodynamic profile of a car, and those effects will only increase as the idea is taken up. I just wonder if Adrian has come up with a few fertile ideas about where he might apply this other than to just the rear wing. Any ideas?

[segedunum]

Sure wish we had similar pics of the RB!

I think they're going to try and make sure that doesn't happen. When Mark Webber had his failure in practice and the marshalls were lifting the car out of the gravel trap, Mark Webber purposefully stuck around and I'm sure that he was making sure that they didn't tip the car up in the air so you could see the floor, which is how the Renault pictures appeared to have been taken. It was noticeable enough to be suspicious.

[ESPImperium]

I have an idea that Adrian will surprise a few people when the cars hit Europe.

Heres a concept, Newey changes the exausts again, but this time they expell to stall the rear wing???

Packaging would remain almost unaffected to some extent!!!