Spanish GP 2010 - Barcelona

[djos]

Awesome Job by Webber!!!! RedBull has brained everyone by 8/10ths of a second!!! They are now so fast they could have locked out the front row on the hard tires!!!!! =D>

[Giblet]

Minardi was 4-8 seconds off the pace nearly their entire careeer. HRT is in it's first year, they need more time, plain and simple.

People were saying the same kind of garbage about Force India, even laughing out loud at them. Time is needed, dues must be paid. They are on the tracks, Minardi was a failure, HRT has not failed yet.

Steering back to topic of the race:

I would really like to see Webber keep his place into the 1st corner this time.

[segedunum]

Massa is having a rough season. Why is kubica in a renault qualifying ahead of him? Things don't look good for Massa at ferrari next year then.

The writing for Massa has been on the wall for some time. He's had some favourable treatment at Ferrari over the years when it perhaps hasn't been warranted, but even when things were going well he had a habit of putting in performances that were some way off where he should be. The 'driver coaching' from Rob Smedley has happened for some time and it has raised more than a few eyebrows.

When the Ferrari was heavily biased to generating most of its grip from the aerodynamics then he looked to have a way of working with the car, but now that they've endeavoured to make the car more driveable in slower corners and generate more mechanical grip then he looks absolutely nowhere. Alonso looks to be able to generate the heat in his tyres that he needs to be comfortable with that car, and ironically, I daresay that Raikkonen would have been far more comfortable with the way that Ferrari now looks.

I think Massa's politically cosy situation within the team looks to be over, and Alonso hasn't really had to do anything. Disappointing.

[Giblet]

Massa is having a rough season. Why is kubica in a renault qualifying ahead of him? Things don't look good for Massa at ferrari next year then.

The writing for Massa has been on the wall for some time. He's had some favourable treatment at Ferrari over the years when it perhaps hasn't been warranted, but even when things were going well he had a habit of putting in performances that were some way off where he should be. The 'driver coaching' from Rob Smedley has happened for some time and it has raised more than a few eyebrows.

When the Ferrari was heavily biased to generating most of its grip from the aerodynamics then he looked to have a way of working with the car, but now that they've endeavoured to make the car more driveable in slower corners and generate more mechanical grip then he looks absolutely nowhere. Alonso looks to be able to generate the heat in his tyres that he needs to be comfortable with that car, and ironically, I daresay that Raikkonen would have been far more comfortable with the way that Ferrari now looks.

I think Massa's politically cosy situation within the team looks to be over, and Alonso hasn't really had to do anything. Disappointing.

I completely agree.

Massa has grown on me over the years. I respect him for more with his ability to work hard. A big heart won't keep him there much longer. So long as Alonso keeps from flipping over the card table, he should win the season over his teammate quite easily.

Alonso is a tough nut to crack, but he drives each car like it needs to be drive to go quick. Many people thought his technique of hammering the car into the corners in the Renault was his driving style, but he doesn't really have one has his tenure at Mclaren and Renault the second time around showed.

He flicked the Renault in because it made it go the quickest, and the Mclaren smooth, because that was the fastest for each car.

He is very good at wringing the neck of the car in the right way, but in Spain this time around, he seems to just have gotten it a little wrong.

[ringo]

Rosberg struggling on P9.

Your enjoying this aren't you? Rubbing salt in the wounds now that shumacher makes a turn around. Rosberg fans may not be so forgiving next time, since shumi has no more excuses.

[ringo]

Massa is having a rough season. Why is kubica in a renault qualifying ahead of him? Things don't look good for Massa at ferrari next year then.

The writing for Massa has been on the wall for some time. He's had some favourable treatment at Ferrari over the years when it perhaps hasn't been warranted, but even when things were going well he had a habit of putting in performances that were some way off where he should be. The 'driver coaching' from Rob Smedley has happened for some time and it has raised more than a few eyebrows.

When the Ferrari was heavily biased to generating most of its grip from the aerodynamics then he looked to have a way of working with the car, but now that they've endeavoured to make the car more driveable in slower corners and generate more mechanical grip then he looks absolutely nowhere. Alonso looks to be able to generate the heat in his tyres that he needs to be comfortable with that car, and ironically, I daresay that Raikkonen would have been far more comfortable with the way that Ferrari now looks.

I think Massa's politically cosy situation within the team looks to be over, and Alonso hasn't really had to do anything. Disappointing.

I completely agree.

Massa has grown on me over the years. I respect him for more with his ability to work hard. A big heart won't keep him there much longer. So long as Alonso keeps from flipping over the card table, he should win the season over his teammate quite easily.

Alonso is a tough nut to crack, but he drives each car like it needs to be drive to go quick. Many people thought his technique of hammering the car into the corners in the Renault was his driving style, but he doesn't really have one has his tenure at Mclaren and Renault the second time around showed.

He flicked the Renault in because it made it go the quickest, and the Mclaren smooth, because that was the fastest for each car.

He is very good at wringing the neck of the car in the right way, but in Spain this time around, he seems to just have gotten it a little wrong.

Yep, Alonso clearly has the psychological edge on his teammate. If anything he will beg to keep massa as his sidekick, though Ferrari may want Kubica. Massa is probably not 100% from his accident last year, but still it seems he is less focused this year after Australia's race.

[hollus]

Why did Kobayashi even bother to go out in softs in Q3? Now he has to start the race on softs and is equally 10th. The hards were good enough for a fishing expedition in case somebody else had problems.

[Miguel]

Schumacher and Massa are both faster than Alonso. =D>

Or maybe not...

If Alonso gets a penalty I guess they will be. [-o<

They wouldn't have been faster. They would have started ahead of him. In any case, your prayers haven't been heard. Ferrari, however, has been fined $20k

[andrew]

They wouldn't have been faster. They would have started ahead of him. In any case, your prayers haven't been heard. Ferrari, however, has been fined $20k

You don't say! Of course they would not be faster. It was a vague attempt at humour. Jeeeese! Some people!

I wasn't praying for anything until it was made clear what the mistake was. All teams have had someone guide the car out of the garage for years and for some reason this didn't happen with Alonso. So either he went before he should have or someone was asleep.

[marcush.]

Why did Kobayashi even bother to go out in softs in Q3? Now he has to start the race on softs and is equally 10th. The hards were good enough for a fishing expedition in case somebody else had problems.

what if he did not even attempt to start Q3 -would this have allowed him to start on his choice of tyres and he could choose freely tomorrow morning?

[Miguel]

They wouldn't have been faster. They would have started ahead of him. In any case, your prayers haven't been heard. Ferrari, however, has been fined $20k

You don't say! Of course they would not be faster. It was a vague attempt at humour. Jeeeese! Some people!

Sorry for that. I'm not in the best of moods. I never am on saturdays since I moved to London.

[Mr Alcatraz]

On qualifying, The Red Bulls were awesome! The Boss, Fred, and Bunsen barely had a pube between them time wise.
That should be an interesting dice. Hopefully one or two of them can rain on Red Bulls parade.
One can only hope [-o<

[WhiteBlue]

Ferrari, however, has been fined $20k

That is actually the only fair solution to the infringement. Alonso did nothing wrong. Ferrari messed up and needed punishment for the unsafe release.

[andrew]

http://www.f1complete.com/2010-news/16926?task=view

Quite a few penalties dished out so far.

[ringo]

Funny none of the referees are jumping out with their yellow cards this time around.
The fine is the best decision of course, pretty calm response to a trivial matter.

Though if one is cynical, it can be said Ferrari didn't want to have to bunch up behind rosberg then waste time building a 30s gap to get some clean air.
There was what 4 minutes left? So i think they purposely tried to get Alonso out first.
This is virtually the same thing as in china but more deliberate, but we don't see the safety referees hollering this time around, i wonder why?

So what are the predictions? Vettel loses p2 to Lewis in turns 1 to 2. And fights from behind as he gets quicker as the fuel burns. Looks like an exciting race round the back with Button, Alonso, Kubica and Shumi.