Red Bull RB6

[Blackout]

Adding bigger wing is relatively simple.
Yes, RBR have a lot downforce, but the thing is that I'm sure for this amount of downforce the drag penalty is low.
If you tried to add wings to Renault it would probably have even lower top-speed than RBR.

Not sure...
It's not the case in Monaco... why ? IMO, because the Renault has enough qualities to produce good grip and balance in that circuit and that's why it can carry a bigger downforce than before without destroying its tires... and it still have a very good top speed.

[roost89]

Another team you can compare, perhaps even more relevant is Toro Rosso.

Ask, why is STR slower than RBR?
What're the main differences between the cars? (major ones include engine)
What're the main differences between the teams?
What're the similarities? (same base car...evolved from the same car last year)

If Red Bull have a secret tool, surely the Toro Rosso will have it as well, at least in a lesser form. However Red Bull still seem to be far better.

There're 4 or 5 cars you can compare in this group.
Renault -> RBR -> STR -> Ferrari
__________________-> Sauber (Sauber is a bit out there as it won't be optimised for the Ferrari engine)

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[Shrek]

how long has RB had the blown slot rear wing?

[wesley123]

is that diffuser new? i cant remember it being that big.

[marcush.]

again .
Red Bull can release a few extra tenths at least from one car but only in Q3....
And quite often the second car does not have this extra tenths..
Is it just traffic? or is it they cannot quite reproduce the performaance gain repeatably ?
or am i seeing things...

[Jersey Tom]

It's like Turbo Boost in Knight Rider.. can only be used once per episode

[ringo]

The rear wing doesn't give much of the redbull's downforce. Most of it seems to be in the body. Rear wing is probably around 250lb to 350lb of downforce.
The floor is where redbull can put a big gap in downforce that is hard for the other teams to obtain. The secret is in the body shape. And how well it is gelled with the suspension and that funny looking rake.
The rake of the car relative to the pitch is very weird, and i'm going try and explain myself a little later with MSpaint.

[timbo]

The rear wing doesn't give much of the redbull's downforce. Most of it seems to be in the body. Rear wing is probably around 250lb to 350lb of downforce.
The floor is where redbull can put a big gap in downforce that is hard for the other teams to obtain. The secret is in the body shape. And how well it is gelled with the suspension and that funny looking rake.
The rake of the car relative to the pitch is very weird, and i'm going try and explain myself a little later with MSpaint.

I think you're not entirely correct.
Look at how Newey uses the beam wing -- it is in much cleaner surrounding compared to most other cars, and it even has a slot in it!

[Blackout]

Yes, that diffuser is new. The bodywork around the exhausts, the wishbones and the diffuser is also new (appeared in Barcelona) it's tighter... The rear wing is new; 2 slots besides of one... But the beam always had that slot like in the Mclaren...

[PlatinumZealot]

The diffuser augmentations show up nicely here. A small fraction of the heat from the exhaust blows through the side slots. It might make a small difference compared to other teams, whose exhaust blow everywhere behind (not focused).

[ringo]

The rear wing doesn't give much of the redbull's downforce. Most of it seems to be in the body. Rear wing is probably around 250lb to 350lb of downforce.
The floor is where redbull can put a big gap in downforce that is hard for the other teams to obtain. The secret is in the body shape. And how well it is gelled with the suspension and that funny looking rake.
The rake of the car relative to the pitch is very weird, and i'm going try and explain myself a little later with MSpaint.

I think you're not entirely correct.
Look at how Newey uses the beam wing -- it is in much cleaner surrounding compared to most other cars, and it even has a slot in it!

Yes thanks to the body, he has no annoying suspension parts on top the gear box to deal with, all of that is underneath.
The beam wing is used well but it may not contribute much in terms of the size of the force it's creating. I am not saying Newey's wings aren't better than the others. All i am saying is that the redbull's floor and upper surface is where the advantage is at.

[raymondu999]

how long has RB had the blown slot rear wing?

They're putting up the blown wing in Turkey

[tok-tokkie]

Besides focusing the exhaust he has also collected the radiator air to stream over the beam wing. On the other cars it escapes around the exhausts & is hardly put to any good effect. I suspect that radiator air contributes quite a lot to the overall effectiveness of the car's rear end.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

The radiator stream being part of the exhaust stream would make perfect sense.
However, why has nobody else thought of this?

For me at least, the effective diffusing of radiator air is imperative to overall efficiency.