Renault R30

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Blackout wrote:
madly wrote:
Blackout wrote:[..]
Kubica did his best time driving used tires...

Today, I had to abort the first run on a soft set, then I went on used tires, and drove a few laps. I wasn't looking for good lap times, it was rather to check the balance and do a comparison of the two compounds. I must admit that a hard tire performs well and it looks very promising".
Did he talk about FP1 or FP2?
I don't know. I haven't a good translation...
It was about FP2. He used options only during the final part of second practice. Around half of an hour before the end of the session he changed his tyres, but did only few laps and went back to the pits as it started to rain slightly. Most of the drivers did the same and those who stayed on the track were sliding a bit. After a few minutes he (as well as the other drivers) got back on the track and then he set his best time. Track at that moment was colder by around 10 degrees, than before drizzle.

P.S. Blackout, are you by any chance Pole?

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Interesting that despite being by far fastest cars at the speed trap, Renault cars seem to have pretty good grip.
Nice car, all I can say.

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mith wrote: It was about FP2. He used options only during the final part of second practice. Around half of an hour before the end of the session he changed his tyres, but did only few laps and went back to the pits as it started to rain slightly. Most of the drivers did the same and those who stayed on the track were sliding a bit. After a few minutes he (as well as the other drivers) got back on the track and then he set his best time. Track at that moment was colder by around 10 degrees, than before drizzle.
Thanks.
P.S. Blackout, are you by any chance Pole?
No. I'm Tunisian. :D

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timbo wrote:Interesting that despite being by far fastest cars at the speed trap, Renault cars seem to have pretty good grip.
Nice car, all I can say.
It's all about the suspension, I guess. Monaco is a place where the mechanical grip plays a huge role. All those slow corners usually expose a given car's weaknesses in that area, but the R30 seems to be doing just fine. According to Kubica, there are some minor flaws, although they don't have a huge impact on his performance, and Renault is already working on fixing them anyway. On a side note, he also added, that the Lotuses aren't that big of an obstacle, as they're faster than the last year's Saubers ;)
Judging from that, it's quite possible that we'll see Robert on podium this weekend ;)

@Blackout
I was also convinced that you were a Pole. Ah well, another surprise, I guess ;)

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:lol: pole ? why ? I have never wrote or translated a polish text here !

Very interesting how the R30's radiators are mounted...

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Well, maybe just because you're very active on the R30 thread... After Kubica's transfer to Renault many of his fans switched their likings from Sauber to the French team. And now Poland is full of Renault fans! So I simply got used to thinking that Renault fan is Kubica's fan and as he is tremendously popular in here, I thought you might be Pole as well. Especially after you cited 'f1.pl', but I guess, you've just googled it out.

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:)



A closer look at the splitter appeared in Sepang...

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madly
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P1 for Kubica in FP3 :D

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Kubica uses front wing from Barcelona, but Petrov the old one. Strange? For comparison? Did Petrov finished FP3 with the new one?

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On his fastest flying lap time in S3 he had traffic and he had to pass 2 cars, still having best time 20.3 in sector S3.

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Renault F1 is going to have F-Duct at Turkey, i think that they will beat McLaren with vmax and they will overtake Mercedes

http://www.renault-f1.fr/?Renault-utili ... -F-duct-en

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H.Lyoud wrote:Renault F1 is going to have F-Duct at Turkey, i think that they will beat McLaren with vmax and they will overtake Mercedes

http://www.renault-f1.fr/?Renault-utili ... -F-duct-en
That is not the way to set up a "ducted" car, as Ferrari (Barcelona) and McLaren (Bahrain and Melbourne) have shown. IMHO, the correct F-duct set up is matching the top speed of your closer rivals while adding downforce for the rest of the track.
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr

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Miguel wrote:
H.Lyoud wrote:Renault F1 is going to have F-Duct at Turkey, i think that they will beat McLaren with vmax and they will overtake Mercedes

http://www.renault-f1.fr/?Renault-utili ... -F-duct-en
That is not the way to set up a "ducted" car, as Ferrari (Barcelona) and McLaren (Bahrain and Melbourne) have shown. IMHO, the correct F-duct set up is matching the top speed of your closer rivals while adding downforce for the rest of the track.
You are right. But if you don't have any downforce to add, there is still gain in lap time from higher speed. At the moment Renault run thier maximum downforce level.
It's been a long time since we drove last time, but it has also been a short time at the same time
Roam Grosjean ponders the passing of time on the first day of testing at Jerez
February 5, 2013

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I was lucky enough to be invited on a tour of the Renault F1 factory on Monaco GP Saturday.

The tour was conducted by an engineer who works on the rear suspension/wishbone/hub design. He was very informative and obviously loves his job. We saw the fabrication area, the machining, the composites and the wind tunnel (although there was no way we would even get a peek inside!) and finally the rapid prototyping area.

Even before qualifying he was very confident that they would do very well at this race with some good improvements going onto the car, he told us how many points of downforce they had gained - I'm not sure if I should mention it here :) . Obviously they were very cagey about some of the parts on view (I should imagine there will also be parts not on view....... :wink: ) - from what I saw there it's obvious there are some very clever things happening with that car. Renault are exactly as you would imagine them to be - a tight little factory of pure racers working very efficiently.

They love having Kubica there (I forgot to ask about Petrov.....but I can't see why they wouldn't be pleased with him to IMHO).

If passion makes you go faster - Renault will have a good year.

Final observation - when you see a factory like this and hear from one of the designers the subtlety of thought and detail that goes into every component you understand why USF1 didn't have a prayer - you just can't get that depth of experience in a few months.

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Ive heard they've gained upto a second / lap since pre-season.

Certainly a team thats on the up again, and I for one am delighted to see it.

They have recovered well from the Singapore incident, and without Symonds, I thought they would fall further down the order, but they've gone from strength to strength!

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@RH1300S, great post! =D> Thanks!
RH1300S wrote:he told us how many points of downforce they had gained - I'm not sure if I should mention it here :) .
I doubt it is such a secret, it certailny will change in couple of races :) Please share with us
It's been a long time since we drove last time, but it has also been a short time at the same time
Roam Grosjean ponders the passing of time on the first day of testing at Jerez
February 5, 2013