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Webber is a very fast guy too, to many don´t know that he was in pain last year. but know he is on top of the level. Vettel is not overrated, this is absolutely bullshit! but all the driver are in a extra class. Rosberg, Schumacher, alonso and massa too! Kubica is a hell of a driver! Webber has momentan the extra good selfconfident that he know he is the fastest it´s only the brain, is`n it?
Sutil, are very, very good driver. All the best driver with the best talent are momentan in formula one. One exception last year: The teammate from Alonso: Nelson Piquet, he is not in the extra class, he is a very good driver too but not so complete like all the other yet!!
Interestingly actually, I crunched the numbers (I showed my results in another thread) and with the old 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system Vettel would be leading the championship...
ISLAMATRON wrote:goes to show just how bad the old system was
I should say something rude but I will not.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best ..............................organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)
samoth wrote:Webber is a very fast guy too, to many don´t know that he was in pain last year.
Do you have any source? I dont recall hearing anything about his bike accident recovery. If thats the case I admire he did never complain a bit and put all his effort to do the best that he could.
Vettel is not overrated of course. But Mark is not bad, hes been in F1 since 2002 and always performing better and better. And an important thing (too me) not many people remarks is that he is a very good person.
"You need great passion, because everything you do with great pleasure, you do well." -Juan Manuel Fangio
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence." -Ayrton Senna
but there is no reason that Vettle should be ahead of webber when Webbo has more wins... plain & simple, I've always been a proponent of a system that heavily favors wins and I stand by it.
When was the last time that the drier with the most wins at the end of the year would not have been a truly deserving champion?
ISLAMATRON wrote:.. there is no reason that Vettle should be ahead of webber when Webbo has more wins... plain & simple, I've always been a proponent of a system that heavily favors wins and I stand by it.
+1
With that explanation I can agree with your comment. With the old system it would have been 32:30 for Vettel.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best ..............................organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)
From that perspective then I agree with you. However I feel that consistency should be rewarded as well and not just race wins. For example, if we had a season with 19 races, with 18 race winners, I would rather have the guy that takes 19 2nd places win the championship, rather than the guy that wins 2 races and DNFs everything else. This is of course hypothetical as such a situation would be very unlikely
Sounds fishy. Vettel bagged fastest lap with it and they are taking it to Turkey as his spare chassis too. I assume if there really was an issue it must have been very minor. Surely it was not the reason for him being dominated by Webber two weeks in a row.
.... Surely it was not the reason for him being dominated by Webber two weeks in a row.
You seem to have impeccable sources four your speculation.
strad wrote:I think Vettel is a lot like Kimi.
A strange comparison.
like Kimi's enthusiasm for work with the engineers, the sponsors and the press?
like Kimi's good humor?
like Kimi's knack to develop and set up a car?
like Kimi's people skill and positive attitude ?
like Kimi's eloquence and general nice guy character?
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best ..............................organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)
