Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
Ganxxta
Ganxxta
3
Joined: 06 Feb 2010, 22:09
Location: Germany, NRW

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

I'm curious whether Hamiltons front right tyre will survive the race, I think the options can make 10-15 laps after that he has to use the primes :mrgreen:
Hamiltons driving style + Turn 8 + 30°C ambient Temperature = very interesting race :twisted:

BreezyRacer
BreezyRacer
2
Joined: 04 Nov 2006, 00:31

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

WhiteBlue wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:I think with the shock working, Sebastian has been fire all day since the morning and would've been probably ahead of Lewis for maybe 5 tenths or more.
Ahead of Webber as well as he has been all Friday and Saturday.
Just to be clear it was Q3 that was the fastest of pace, and it was Webber that was fastest then. You cannot take that away from him. If Vettel was so damn good why didn't he do a 26.2 in Q2??????????????????????????

User avatar
WhiteBlue
92
Joined: 14 Apr 2008, 20:58
Location: WhiteBlue Country

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

BreezyRacer wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:I think with the shock working, Sebastian has been fire all day since the morning and would've been probably ahead of Lewis for maybe 5 tenths or more.
Ahead of Webber as well as he has been all Friday and Saturday.
Just to be clear it was Q3 that was the fastest of pace, and it was Webber that was fastest then. You cannot take that away from him. If Vettel was so damn good why didn't he do a 26.2 in Q2??????????????????????????
Very simple. Because Q1 and Q2 were contested on primes. Q3 was contested on the options which were typically 0.5 s quicker on the Red Bulls. I did watch all practice sessions and particularly P3 is quite revealing about such issues.

I don't take it away from Webber that he was fastest. He just lucked into it because his generally faster team mate had a failure.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

User avatar
raymondu999
54
Joined: 04 Feb 2010, 07:31

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

Mark Webber wrote:I don't know what happened. It should have been me second. But, anyway, I think we left too early. I don't know what happened. We need to see what happened on the pit wall. Normally I would go second this weekend
From the press conference
失败者找理由,成功者找方法

User avatar
djos
113
Joined: 19 May 2006, 06:09
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

raymondu999 wrote:
Mark Webber wrote:I don't know what happened. It should have been me second. But, anyway, I think we left too early. I don't know what happened. We need to see what happened on the pit wall. Normally I would go second this weekend
From the press conference
Get your context right, they where talking about the order leaving the garage for the final run, not the qually order!!

fact is Webo got pole and Vettel didn't because once more he broke his car! Perhaps if he didn't smash it over the curbs all the time it would stay in one piece!

To those who think that Webber looked slow when doing the fastest lap of the entire weekend to date; just because he doesn't hang his cars arse out all over the place doesn't mean he's slow, Hamilton was over-driving his car as usual and Mark was simply smooth and fast! The Result speaks for itself.

Btw, Mark was driving a car setup for the old rear-wing, he only got his new rear-wing with low-drag end plates and beam wing installed 5mins before Qually, Seb had his for the entire day.
"In downforce we trust"

User avatar
WhiteBlue
92
Joined: 14 Apr 2008, 20:58
Location: WhiteBlue Country

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

djos wrote:fact is Webo got pole and Vettel didn't because once more he broke his car! Perhaps if he didn't smash it over the curbs all the time it would stay in one piece!
That is not a fact but an assertion without substance! :lol: :lol: He did not "brake" his car. Curb smashing wasn't in evidence. Be so kind to post evidence that may have escaped my attention.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

User avatar
djos
113
Joined: 19 May 2006, 06:09
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

WhiteBlue wrote:
djos wrote:fact is Webo got pole and Vettel didn't because once more he broke his car! Perhaps if he didn't smash it over the curbs all the time it would stay in one piece!
That is not a fact but an assertion without substance! :lol: :lol: He did not "brake" his car. Curb smashing wasn't in evidence. Be so kind to post evidence that may have escaped my attention.
No, you explain to me why Webbo can keep his car in one piece and Vettel cant? Facts show this year Vettel has broken something on his most race weekends!
"In downforce we trust"

User avatar
djos
113
Joined: 19 May 2006, 06:09
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

Webber prolly would have been more dominant in Qually had he been able to practice with his new rear wing:
adamcooperf1
A lot going on at RBR today. Vettel had a rollbar failure and Webber used a new wing that arrived in the country minutes before qualifying!
From Twitter
"In downforce we trust"

User avatar
Chaparral
0
Joined: 01 May 2008, 13:10
Location: New England District NSW Australia

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

Whiteblue wrote
Not by merit though, and that was the point I was making. In the race everything can happen to all of them and I hope that the luck evens out for Vettel soon.
WB you are so full of it ace - your no different than you were at GP.com you worship Vettel the same as you did Schumacher before him - your impressions postings etc are so biased blind Freddy could see it. I think Vettel is certainly a talent but is still on a learning curve whereas Mark has finally found his confidence and his skill level matches the machinery he's been given last year and this and hopefully he can continue to grab some more wins this season but theres a long way to go - and good luck to him. If you'd like my observations on who I think are the best drivers on the grid then its Alonso & Hamilton both have supreme talent and both are 'scrappers' i.e. agressive and take no prisoners but Mark is close to them thats for sure and happens to appear to have a better ride at the moment.
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs - there's also the negative side' - Hunter S Thompson

PNSD
PNSD
3
Joined: 03 Apr 2006, 18:10

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

These last few races Webber has found form in himself and car, and after Button to do so last year, I couldnt think of a better supprise ;-)!

Im not a fan of Vettel at all. I think he's quick, Lewis quick, but his rough edges are a little too rough for me, so im glad old man Webber is showing the way as they are now. I imagine Vettel will bounce back soon enough, but im glad with the current happenings.

As for the race, Mclaren need a good start, and on the dirty side it will be difficult.

I think Lewis can stay 2nd, but I have a bad feeling JB will fall behind Schumacher. Should be a good race though.

User avatar
Chaparral
0
Joined: 01 May 2008, 13:10
Location: New England District NSW Australia

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

PNSD please 34 is old - crikeys I was just hitting my straps in the business world at that age :lol: hopefully the 'old' blokes can keep on getting the results later in life in this formulae.
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs - there's also the negative side' - Hunter S Thompson

User avatar
WhiteBlue
92
Joined: 14 Apr 2008, 20:58
Location: WhiteBlue Country

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

djos wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:
djos wrote:fact is Webo got pole and Vettel didn't because once more he broke his car! Perhaps if he didn't smash it over the curbs all the time it would stay in one piece!
That is not a fact but an assertion without substance! :lol: :lol: He did not "brake" his car. Curb smashing wasn't in evidence. Be so kind to post evidence that may have escaped my attention.
No, you explain to me why Webbo can keep his car in one piece and Vettel cant? Facts show this year Vettel has broken something on his most race weekends!
I knew you would not be able to find anything to back up this funny claim. It has nothing to do with Vettel's driving. It is bad luck. But luck is not enough to win in the end. Alonso also had better results than his driving and it starts to even out now. The better man will win the WDC and it will not be Webber IMO.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

univex
univex
0
Joined: 09 Jun 2009, 04:21

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

I agree he broke his car. He's only faster because he rides the curbs more.
Webber missed his practice quali in FP3, and did not get his new wing till just before quali. MW was learning the limits and building up in Q1 and Q2.

User avatar
djos
113
Joined: 19 May 2006, 06:09
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

WhiteBlue wrote: I knew you would not be able to find anything to back up this funny claim. It has nothing to do with Vettel's driving. It is bad luck. But luck is not enough to win in the end. Alonso also had better results than his driving and it starts to even out now. The better man will win the WDC and it will not be Webber IMO.
So next you'll blame Seb's mechanics for not screwing his car together properly? =D>
"In downforce we trust"

D'Leh
D'Leh
0
Joined: 14 Jul 2008, 11:42

Re: Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

Post

Yeah, in Germany in free tv there's some deranged commentator, who is in fact blaming Red Bull for all the problems Vettel has. He sings pretty much a similar song WB is singing here. It is so bad, that I never watch F1 in free tv anymore. Luckily there's pay tv also. While they are German too, obviously, they cover it a bit more balanced.