Mercedes GP MGP W01

[marcush.]

what is L1 and L3?

Going by the slight rise in temps I would say L1 is lap 1 and L3 is lap 3.

+1 think so.
But we can see that rear pressure build up is a bit more than front...so we can assume the balance will go towards oversteer with time ...

[Lurk]

Rear wheels are power wheels. They're heating a little bit more so it's normal that rear pressure build up more than front pressure.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Ok guys, well the news we have after the race is this.

Mercedes are in fact running a FULL F-duct system.
The air runs through the car under the engine cover, then tapers up the rear wing and to the staller device.

This is a very long route for the air to travel! It seems ridiculous in fact, that the air has to turn 90 degrees up the rear wing then turn a further 90 degrees to reach the staller. How inefficient is that.....

Why do they not create a shark fin that goes straight to the staller getting maximum effect? Or is this homologated too?

[marcush.]

Rear wheels are power wheels. They're heating a little bit more so it's normal that rear pressure build up more than front pressure.

but you need to keep the pressure as constant as possible...otherwise the balance will change, no question about that.

[vealio]

Why is there such a huge difference between quali and race pace with this car?

[painkiller]

Ok guys, well the news we have after the race is this.

Mercedes are in fact running a FULL F-duct system.
The air runs through the car under the engine cover, then tapers up the rear wing and to the staller device.

This is a very long route for the air to travel! It seems ridiculous in fact, that the air has to turn 90 degrees up the rear wing then turn a further 90 degrees to reach the staller. How inefficient is that.....

Why do they not create a shark fin that goes straight to the staller getting maximum effect? Or is this homologated too?

Hi. I´m reading this forum for a long time and thank all the people with better technical understanding for the proffessional infos. but back to topic.

Yes they told Rosberg not to forget to use it during the race. But how??? Any ideas? I didn´t see anything - and the "top"speed is everything but not TOP. The fin I believe is not homologated. Ferrari and other teams changed it during the season.

Hard to understand what they are doing.

[marcush.]

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 0/758.html

[vealio]

So if they have somehow an active system too, why is their top speed still that worse in comparison to Ferrari, McLaren, Sauber?

[painkiller]

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 0/758.html

THX

[RacingManiac]

Why is there such a huge difference between quali and race pace with this car?

The car seems to suffer much more on the switch from Option to Prime.

To be fair though no one other than RBR or McLaren was really faster today, yes there was a bunch of cars behind them, but they weren't exactly in the position to challenge like McLaren to RBR was today. They still seem to suffer a lot on top speed too....

[Lurk]

Rear wheels are power wheels. They're heating a little bit more so it's normal that rear pressure build up more than front pressure.

but you need to keep the pressure as constant as possible...otherwise the balance will change, no question about that.

Front and rear tyres start at the same temperature due to wheel cover. Then rear tyres rapidly reach their working temperature, front tyres need more than an outlap a fast lap and an inlap to reach that.
So it's normal that pressure increase more at the rear in only 3 laps.

A 3-lap stint means nothing for temp and pressure evolution during a long stint.

[painkiller]

Some rear-wing-pictures would be intresting now that we know the f-duct is an active system...

[marcush.]

Rear wheels are power wheels. They're heating a little bit more so it's normal that rear pressure build up more than front pressure.

but you need to keep the pressure as constant as possible...otherwise the balance will change, no question about that.

Front and rear tyres start at the same temperature due to wheel cover. Then rear tyres rapidly reach their working temperature, front tyres need more than an outlap a fast lap and an inlap to reach that.
So it's normal that pressure increase more at the rear in only 3 laps.

A 3-lap stint means nothing for temp and pressure evolution during a long stint.

obviously you would adjust your tyre pressures to account for this for the qualy stint ..to make sure your pressures are spot on to maximise grip?

[ggajic]

It is worth noting that now it is clear that it will be RedBull vs. McLaren. I wouldn't be surprised if Mercedes manages to catch up with them in the last third of season. However, car obviously suffers from lack of top speed. Michael couldn't keep up with Button although he made much better star. It is hard to believe that track temperature contributed so much to McLaren competitiveness.

[MichaelW]

Schuey said they are working very hard in the factory to reduce drag and increase the top speed of the car. He hopes they can improve massively at this subject together with the F-Duct, which is not working at 100% yet.