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McLaren have chosen some interesting design routes on their new competitor. In addition to our own technical analysis, McLaren's Tim Goss and Paddy Lowe explain why some decisions have been made in light of the regulation changes.
Well spotted - thanks.NaZzO wrote: Those numbers are too low for top speed. maybe you are referring to sector 1 top speeds.
The actual speed traps for Montreal are: Petrov and Kubica @ 324kph, Alguersuari and DiGrassi @ 323kph, and Button @ 320 kph.
Those are still available in the f1.com live timing application. Look for it in the weather and speed tab.
http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/liv ... popup.html
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POS NO DRIVER KPH TIME OF DAY
1 12 V. PETROV 324.7 12:08:53
2 11 R. KUBICA 324.2 12:04:26
3 17 J. ALGUERSUARI 323.2 13:03:55
4 25 L. DI GRASSI 323.0 13:21:17
5 16 S. BUEMI 322.8 13:04:37
6 1 J. BUTTON 320.1 13:14:34
7 23 K. KOBAYASHI 320.0 12:04:29
8 15 V. LIUZZI 320.0 12:51:43
9 14 A. SUTIL 319.9 12:36:04
10 2 L. HAMILTON 319.8 13:14:30
11 22 P. DE LA ROSA 319.6 12:22:57
12 8 F. ALONSO 316.9 12:49:27
13 7 F. MASSA 316.5 13:09:26
14 19 H. KOVALAINEN 315.2 13:16:13
15 4 N. ROSBERG 315.1 12:48:30
16 3 M. SCHUMACHER 314.8 12:29:34
17 18 J. TRULLI 314.7 12:23:10
18 9 R. BARRICHELLO 313.4 12:28:50
19 10 N. HULKENBERG 313.1 13:31:00
20 5 S. VETTEL 312.1 12:45:31
21 6 M. WEBBER 312.0 12:07:14
22 20 K. CHANDHOK 309.7 12:07:32
23 21 B. SENNA 309.3 12:06:02
24 24 T. GLOCK 308.8 12:11:43
If you run that much wing compared to the other cars and can stay within 4-5kph of the front runners then the F-duct is working minor miracles at the back of the car.Blackout wrote:Look how steep and large that wing (mclaren Wing) is...
!I disagree. Being able to run more wing than the others without straightline speed penalty will allow them to be a few mph faster in the Lesmo corners and the Parabolica. Both of these corners lead on to straights that end in chicanes (particularly the latter) which will mean decent overtaking chances at least twice a lap. The Variante Ascari may be taken quicker too which will also help in the run down to Parabolica.Shaddock wrote: If you run that much wing compared to the other cars and can stay within 4-5kph of the front runners then the F-duct is working minor miracles at the back of the car.
However, with no real corners the extra DF was only useful for braking and tracking at the last race. Valencia requires slightly more DF than Canada and so it should suit the 25 even more than Canada did.
Monza with less DF than Canada will allow them to run a similar wing, but again the benefits may only be seen in braking and traction zones.
It's still only 3 corners for the whole track, and the second Lesmo isn't taken at high speed. At Parabolica they will have an advantage, and I would imagine in the same way they pick a braking point, they will have to pick an F-duct point during corner.I disagree. Being able to run more wing than the others without straightline speed penalty will allow them to be a few mph faster in the Lesmo corners and the Parabolica. Both of these corners lead on to straights that end in chicanes (particularly the latter) which will mean decent overtaking chances at least twice a lap. The Variante Ascari may be taken quicker too which will also help in the run down to Parabolica
That's what I saidShaddock wrote:If you run that much wing compared to the other cars and can stay within 4-5kph of the front runners then the F-duct is working minor miracles at the back of the car.Blackout wrote:Look how steep and large that wing (mclaren Wing) is...
Blackout wrote:Gaara wrote:did mclaren use the f-duct in canada? because the top speed wasn't the highest
That means their F-duct is incredibly powerful: McLaren didn't brought a specific low downforce wings to Montreal; they used the Istanbul spec (wich generates a far greater amount of DF) ! and despite that, they had a competitive Top speed...
And make the tires last longuer thanks, like ringo said...However, with no real corners the extra DF was only useful for braking and trackion at the last race.
and in some turns; Monza also likes cars that naturally generate a good level of downforce, like just a fan saidMonza with less DF than Canada will allow them to run a similar wing, but again the benefits may only be seen in braking and traction zones.
Then you are looking wrong as the mclaren is the car with the tightest sidepod packaging, the only fat ass on the grid is the ferrari.Goran2812 wrote:the mclaren's ass looks a little fat compared to the ferrari, mercedes and sauber..
and that sauber has almost the same rear end lines and some details like the ferrari... nice photos for comparison!
Really when?Blackout wrote:That's what I saidShaddock wrote:If you run that much wing compared to the other cars and can stay within 4-5kph of the front runners then the F-duct is working minor miracles at the back of the car.Blackout wrote:Look how steep and large that wing (mclaren Wing) is...
Blackout wrote:Gaara wrote:did mclaren use the f-duct in canada? because the top speed wasn't the highest
That means their F-duct is incredibly powerful: McLaren didn't brought a specific low downforce wings to Montreal; they used the Istanbul spec (wich generates a far greater amount of DF) ! and despite that, they had a competitive Top speed...And make the tires last longuer thanks, like ringo said...However, with no real corners the extra DF was only useful for braking and trackion at the last race.
and in some turns; Monza also likes cars that naturally generate a good level of downforce, like just a fan saidMonza with less DF than Canada will allow them to run a similar wing, but again the benefits may only be seen in braking and traction zones.
