Canadian GP 2010 - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve

[WhiteBlue]

Webber backs gearbox change over conspiracy theories

I thought it was clearly said that Webbo's wall scrape in Q3 was what necessatated the gearbox change, or did I hear that in a dream?

I have my doubts about that. That Q3 kissing of the wall was rather shy. He traded a bit of rubber but did not even scratch the wheel rim.

Vettel on the other hand had no wall event and also had a gearbox issue in the race. And the race probably was the last race of gearbox #2 for both drivers. This was race #8 and they are supposed to run 4 races per box.

I can imagine that the RBR boxes are a bit marginal due to the exhaust routing they do this year.

[zonk]

Hi All!! I'm new one here. Did anybody noticed that Schumi crashed one the opening lap Kubica's diffuser? could it be the reason why his tires went so quickly.

[mr moda]

If webber was faster do you believe that Vettel should let him through WB?

Your question is not clear. You assume a situation and do not give a full set of circumstances. Webber was not faster. If he had been faster what would have been the reasons in your hypothetical question for being faster? Team order? Loss of power by Vettel? Concern for a failure? It is impossible to answer that without a given set of circumstances.

Ok. I thought the question was clear but obviously not. Perhaps I need to go back to school.
Webber was faster due to Vettel being asked to turn it down due to the team " working on a problem" this was noted during the broadcast. Now lets say webber was a bit closer. Yes? Webber had no issue with the car but did turn it down to save it for Valencia.
I pose my question again.
If webber was faster do you believe that Vettel should let him through WB?

[Giblet]

Welcome Zonk

I would think that diffuser damage would lighten the load on the tires, but with less downforce there might have been more 'squirelling' or an inability to get proper heat and more graining.

I'm not sure what effect diffuser damage would have.

One thing I noticed about the R30 compared to the other cars, while watching in corners 8 and 9 at the Canadian GP, was the mid corner traction of the Renault was awesome. Both Kubica and Petrov seemed to have some time to give an extra squirt of power in transition between 8 and 9. Ferrari seemed to have more exit grip and revs, and the Mclarens were smooth with no apparent spikes.

It's too bad how little static camera views we get in F1 TV coverage. It would make for some much better watching and comparisons I think. Following a car around mutes the sense of speed and direction change.

[WhiteBlue]

If webber was faster do you believe that Vettel should let him through WB?

Your question is not clear. You assume a situation and do not give a full set of circumstances. Webber was not faster. If he had been faster what would have been the reasons in your hypothetical question for being faster? Team order? Loss of power by Vettel? Concern for a failure? It is impossible to answer that without a given set of circumstances.

Ok. I thought the question was clear but obviously not. Perhaps I need to go back to school.
Webber was faster due to Vettel being asked to turn it down due to the team " working on a problem" this was noted during the broadcast. Now lets say webber was a bit closer. Yes? Webber had no issue with the car but did turn it down to save it for Valencia.
I pose my question again.
If webber was faster do you believe that Vettel should let him through WB?

I have answered that question before if you care to read the thread. There are two cases:

1. Webber cannot reach Alonso because the gap is obviously too big and he isn't under pressure from behind. -> No need for the team to risk a fight between the drivers and stress Vettel's box.

2. Webber was in reach of Alonso or under pressure from behind. -> The team should have told Vettel to let him pass.

[mr moda]

Point 2.
Thankyou. That was all I needed.

[jake_m]

This shot came out rather nice. Petrov in the braking zone at the end of casino straight.

[Chaparral]

Whiteblue wrote

He traded a bit of rubber but did not even scratch the wheel rim.

Sorry how do you know he didnt bang the rim

[andrew]

Nice one! =D>

[dannyteasdale]

This shot came out rather nice. Petrov in the braking zone at the end of casino straight.

Great shot, Shame that the fence got in the way a little bit! I find that annoying when I get a good shot and then the fence spoils it!
Loving the brake discs glowing.

[WhiteBlue]

Whiteblue wrote

He traded a bit of rubber but did not even scratch the wheel rim.

Sorry how do you know he didnt bang the rim

from the thread viewtopic.php?p=177211#p177211

[Richard]

That's impressive panning, you've got the car so nice and crisp.

Personally, I like the fence - it gives a real sense of being trackside. Also the panning has blurred it so it is not too intrusive.

[dannyteasdale]

In that respect yeah I agree. Each to their own

[WhiteBlue]

Bridgestone confirmed that the track characteristics in Montreal contributed greatly to not allowing the tyres to work at their best.

It's very smooth so the tyres didn't deform enough to get enough temperature, especially in the beginning of the race. We learned so many things during this race and will analyse the tyres to learn for the future.

That was the real reason that Mercedes could not qualify well but went much better with race fuel on board. They cannot get the tyres to dissipate heat on low fuel. Same story they had last year as Brawns. They certainly need to find a solution to this issue or they will continue to be uncompetitive. Ferrari had the same problem in 2005. Perhaps they should ask some tyre engineers what to do?

That wasn't a great qualifying session for us today. We have a good car here this weekend but unfortunately we couldn't get the tyres to work properly this afternoon. That was the big issue for us today. The harder tyre wasn't too bad in Q1 but we struggled with the option later on and there was just no more lap time to be had.

[strad]

Looks scuffed at 7 oclock,,9 oclock and from 12 to 1 oclock

quite frankly,,that rim must be thrown away