Replacing fossil fuels

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Gyro
All of the posts since my last one make no reference to the link I posted.
You ignoring an overpowering bit of news that happened in the last month or so, to keep this narrow view that America is the bane of the planet, is not constructive.

Fact is they are talking in years on how to revolutionise american energy needs. Not decades, YEARS. And once America can sustain its own energy requirements, its power and influence instantly doubles as it no longer has to dance to others tune.
You looking at this the wrong way round, the people who benefit the most out of the oil industry are in fact Governments around the world(through taxes) and also the people that sell the oil. Dubai would be a spec of dust had it not been for oil, its American and Western cash that has made the oil rich nations very wealthy indeed.

And the oil rich nations sell their oil to the highest bidder. So take the issue of greed up with them.
As for Britain, BP cover us in glory dont they?

Get off the high horse of having a go at America, they are doing more than anyone else and deserve respect and credit for it.

[autogyro]

I did point out that the science mentioned originated at Cambridge University in England.
(Synthetic fuels were in use in 1917).
We have all seen the problems associated with manipulating biology.
There are literaly miles of information on the science and the risks.
IMO we are simply seeing an incentive to delay alternative fuel introduction, much as the 'hydrogen as a fuel' is promoted.
CO2 Neutral fuels can already be obtained in sufficient quantity to meet energy needs now. It only takes the international will to drive the issue.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

CO2 Neutral fuels can already be obtained in sufficient quantity to meet energy needs now. It only takes the international will to drive the issue.

Please elaborate, and car to mention how the said bio fuels will not impact on food price and production.

And the 1917 "invention" of synthetic fuel made no mention of how to produce vast amounts in a carbon neutral fashion did it? Unless the whole world missed a trick, Im guessing NO.

Hence why craig venter's idea and vision is so important! Yet still you will not see...Im tired of dragging this horse to the water...someone else's turn!

[010010011010]

CO2 Neutral fuels can already be obtained in sufficient quantity to meet energy needs now.

Were going in circles now, weve already established the farce that is 'CO2 netural fuels'. Also as JET pointed out, BP, the largest employer in jolly old England is an oil company. One thats responsible for a very serious enviromental disaster at the moment, so its pretty rich to be pointing the finger at America.

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It's just that you are the only member yet to discover how futile that particular struggle is JET!

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

I try

To anyone else that does not believe America is out to steal your wife and granny, this link makes for good and uplifting reading.

http://www.newsweek.com/2008/06/07/a-bu ... lanet.html

[autogyro]

Alternate carbon neutral fuel technology and write ups on fuel crop production are out there by the thousand. Probably million by now.
I have been posting on them for over ten years over and over again.
Oil lobby is still preventing sensible introduction.
I do have an official paper on carbon neutral motor sport before the FIA AEC if you want a copy .pdf.
I am just to busy to go over and over again on these issues.
All that happens is the opposition comes up with the same useless arguments again and again from different sources. I am just fed up with wasting my time while they make all the money and sh-- on everyone.
Anyway I am working up a world record at present so no time.

[autogyro]

CO2 Neutral fuels can already be obtained in sufficient quantity to meet energy needs now.

Were going in circles now, weve already established the farce that is 'CO2 netural fuels'. Also as JET pointed out, BP, the largest employer in jolly old England is an oil company. One thats responsible for a very serious enviromental disaster at the moment, so its pretty rich to be pointing the finger at America.

BP is mainly American and it is the cost saving by American managers and sub contractors that caused the spill.
That is not to say that British oil companies are any the less criminals than any other countries.

[autogyro]

I try

To anyone else that does not believe America is out to steal your wife and granny, this link makes for good and uplifting reading.

http://www.newsweek.com/2008/06/07/a-bu ... lanet.html

It would be nice if this were true and workable.
Unfortunately it is possible to find hundreds of such claims from Americans on the web. I just get fed up with researching all the lies they put out.
I have concluded that their view of the world is now pure fantasy.

[010010011010]

I do have an official paper on carbon neutral motor sport before the FIA AEC if you want a copy .pdf

Send me a link if you dont mind

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Gyro

You are probably the only person calling Craig Venters breakthrough a lie and fantasy.
Suffice to say you arent the least bit qualified to pass judgement on wether his breakthrough works or not.
He's gone public with his breakthrough, this means its open to all his detractors in the Scientific world, and they remain silent!

Im sure they would love to know what you have on this that they dont.....

[autogyro]

I just love the way you state that I am in no way qualified to comment on this.
It just so happens that I know someone who was up at Cambridge when this science was first researched.
Are you qualified in it JET?

We will see.
As I said it would be nice if it is not one of the thousands of claims made that are pure fiction on the answers in alternate energy. The oil companies just love it.

It is global power politics that prevent the take up of alternates to any workable level. I know this from personal experience in energy generation.
The vested interest is unbelievable unless you are directly involved.
GM had electric vehicles years ago they just scrapped all of them.
In the 1930s they bought up all the electric public transport infra structures through out America and replaced it with petrol public transport.
There are endless stories of similar monopolies from oil based energy investment all around the world. It is all a matter of record decades ago.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

"I know someone" Qualification?

Yea right, debate over.

[autogyro]

"I know someone" Qualification?

Yea right, debate over.

Giving up are we?
I never said I was a scientist in biology are you?

[Steven]

Guys,

first of all, I believe this thread here was about replacing fossil fuels. The last two pages are hardly about that.

Furthermore, I have said repeatedly that this is not a political forum. Such discussions have already caused some damage in the past, and will not be allowed under any circumstances.