myurr wrote:Wow segedunum beating up on McLaren again.... they've released pretty much a B car today with massive changes to the entire package and you wonder why they're having to relearn how to set up the car?
I'm not really specifically mentioning McLaren, but they are where they are I'm afraid and I'm not terribly interested in what they're having to relearn. They're doing that because they're behind, that's the bottom line.
The difference between the stability of the McLaren and the Red Bull through high speed corners, especially where there are bumps, is night and day. That's just a visual. For some reason the McLarens have always been bad over bumps this season and their stability under braking at Turkey was startling. A straight line speed advantage isn't always going to bring them back into play.
Agree that Red Bull are likely to be the team to beat here, but once McLaren hone in on the correct setup on the car then they'll be running them close, and are likely to get stronger and stronger over the next few races as they refine their package and get the most out of the new exhaust system.
This is going to take many, many races to perfect and it isn't a set up issue. The RB6 is a far more complex machine aerodynamically than anyone thought and that is what everyone is having to copy. All the talk of gigantic diffusers with large holes in them has fallen by the wayside.
It's a question of how quickly McLaren and others can catch up in their lack of usable downforce versus how quickly Red Bull can get to grips on the one area in straight line speed where they're short and how sensible everyone has been in where they've put their effort. Is it easier to copy a whole back end downforce and exhaust system or an F-duct?