Technical Regulations for 2009-2015

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Pingguest wrote:A minimum pit stop time sounds very artificial to me. Wouldn't it be a better idea just to get rid pit stops?
If it was an "either/or" situation, then yes. But I'm sure there's an area between the black and white, such as leaving as it is.
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On saftey, a standardised wheel nut system, with ECU support where the car will not go untill the wheel nut is attached correctly.

On pit stops, bring back refueling, but also have a standard fuel tank as well. And for refueling, to make it cheaper, have each garrage have a simple gravity fed container 2 metres above ground level. Also make fuel stops ones where they have to pit for fuel only, once only per race.

As for KERS, keep the current generation of KERS systems, but make them unlimited in time.

As for moveable aero, keep it to the front wing only, and make F-Ducts mechanicaly operated as well, keep the drivers hands on the wheel.

For flexible front wings, the only way to clear that loophole up is to ban the little winglets that Red Bull have to force the end plates down.

Id also allow the teams to take tyres and sculpt them for mixed wether conditions like at Spa, allow the teams to make one set of hard compound slicks what is known as "cut slicks".

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Just a question here... but what actually happens to the aero regs after this engine reg change? Do the aero regs stay the same?
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Hard to answer this question. I believe the aero will be significantly affected by the sporting regulations. We expect the sporting regulations to limit the use of fuel in the race a lot more than it is today. This impacts on the aero heavily as high downforce/drag configs need plenty of power to work well. As the average power over the race will be more restricted I expect the aero to go to a lower downforce/drag setting to cope.
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Simple really, just ban any bodywork outside 250 mm of the car's centerline ahead of the front wheels. Without the 2 - 5 kN of front downforce, the rear has to follow, air-resistance will be radically reduced to save fuel and there will be no grip to lose when getting close to the car in front.

A win-win situation me thinks?
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Wouldn't the laptimes go to the dogs then? :?
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Of course they would Ray, but top-speed will go up, differentiating speeds around the track, making for xciting racing!
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Axis of Oversteer:
On the chassis side, the concept is to embrace the downforce made by diffusers, somewhat like on ground effect cars of the past, and rely less on front wings. This would mean sidepods would need to stretch forward with the added benefit of extra side impact protection."
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Current front wings are damaged too frequently. So this is good!

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Pretty much my worst nightmare in terms of engine regulations...

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86341

Ground effect?
Interesting.
Actually I always thought it could allow a much more effective F1 car, but how they gonna cap the spending war?

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Scarbs is reporting Rory Byrne is heading the 2013 regulation changes. Will ground effect actually help overtaking though? What does it do to the wake?
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raymondu999 wrote:Scarbs is reporting Rory Byrne is heading the 2013 regulation changes. Will ground effect actually help overtaking though? What does it do to the wake?
Ground effect (with skirts) gives more downforce for a same drag than current wings/undertray combo. It creates less wake. If the regulations are made in such way so teams would not rely on complex vortex structure to create downforce it should also be less sensitive to wake.

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timbo wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Scarbs is reporting Rory Byrne is heading the 2013 regulation changes. Will ground effect actually help overtaking though? What does it do to the wake?
Ground effect (with skirts) gives more downforce for a same drag than current wings/undertray combo. It creates less wake. If the regulations are made in such way so teams would not rely on complex vortex structure to create downforce it should also be less sensitive to wake.
Wouldnt it be easier just to cut a few grooves in the track and fit a peg between the front wheels.
Now whats that called? Oh yea 'slot racing'.
Edit: Had another idea. If you then put two pick ups on the cars, they could be all electric, there would be no fuel problems or on track issues. If there is an incident just turn off the power.
Problem then is there would be no point in having a driver.
Why doesnt Rory bite the bullet and do what is right, reduce downforce by at least 50 percent and stop using F1 just to justify the wage checks of the aero nerds. With a fuel conserving formula and reduced DF the aero guys would suddenly have a 'proper challenge' to deal with, that would have some relevence to the real world.

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autogyro wrote:
timbo wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Scarbs is reporting Rory Byrne is heading the 2013 regulation changes. Will ground effect actually help overtaking though? What does it do to the wake?
Ground effect (with skirts) gives more downforce for a same drag than current wings/undertray combo. It creates less wake. If the regulations are made in such way so teams would not rely on complex vortex structure to create downforce it should also be less sensitive to wake.
Wouldnt it be easier just to cut a few grooves in the track and fit a peg between the front wheels.
Now whats that called? Oh yea 'slot racing'.
Edit: Had another idea. If you then put two pick ups on the cars, they could be all electric, there would be no fuel problems or on track issues. If there is an incident just turn off the power.
Problem then is there would be no point in having a driver.
Why doesnt Rory bite the bullet and do what is right, reduce downforce by at least 50 percent and stop using F1 just to justify the wage checks of the aero nerds. With a fuel conserving formula and reduced DF the aero guys would suddenly have a 'proper challenge' to deal with, that would have some relevence to the real world.
You just contradicted yourself in a single post.
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