Reduction of G-forces in race cars

[mach11]

Hey all,

I was wondering if there are any studies goingon in the field of reduction of G-forces in race cars?

This will hugely benifit the drivers....

[timbo]

Why do you wish to reduce Gs?
Why must it benefit the drivers? I never heard them complaining about Gs.

[mach11]

a lot of F1 drivers loose weight as a result of these G-Forces which also gets them really exhausted....

Its just a possibility.... something to ponder upon....

[747heavy]

driving slower - , will reduce the g-forces considerably
no seriously, you would need to reduce either grip, or speed to achieve this.
You can/could tilt the car, making it lean into a turn, if you like to change the axis at which the g-forces act up onto the body, but I don´t think that the weight loss of the driver is directly related to the g-forces.
It is related to many other factors as well.
IMHO - but maybe I understand your question wrong.

[piast9]

Hm... I don't think that today F1 drivers have extremely hard job. Just look at the season reviews from 80's. Especially from ground effect era but not only. There were drivers blacking out from exhaustion during the race, passing out at the podium. They were extremely tired after the race. Today unless there is hot weather they seem to hardly sweat.

[timbo]

Hm... I don't think that today F1 drivers have extremely hard job. Just look at the season reviews from 80's. Especially from ground effect era but not only. There were drivers blacking out from exhaustion during the race, passing out at the podium. They were extremely tired after the race. Today unless there is hot weather they seem to hardly sweat.

It's not that today's drivers are not working hard.
Where are few things easier — steering is lighter and there's paddle-shift gearboxes but G-forces are also greater.
What really matters is that level of fitness and physical training modern drivers receive is much higher that it used to be back in 80's-early 90's.

[Caito]

Mark was able to race after vomiting during the race. That means that although it's not probably easy. With correct training it can be made more than doable.

[PlatinumZealot]

Hey all,

I was wondering if there are any studies goingon in the field of reduction of G-forces in race cars?

This will hugely benifit the drivers....

You can't reduce the g-forces all movements of the car being the same. If you mean reducing the effects of the g-forces on the drivers body then..

You can reduce the g-force the driver feels but only if he wasn't strapped in tightly though. You can have the driver suspended in some type of dampening fluid.It will only work for momentary accelerations, after a while the dampening will be maxed out and the driver will feel the full acceleration.

[G37Sam]

Cornering g forces come from the simple equation of:



So either increase your turning radius at the same speed, or reduce your speed at the same turning radius, with the latter having a larger effect

[riff_raff]

mach11,

G-forces in what respect? During acceleration, braking, or cornering? Or during an impact?

If it's during an impact, the FIA is always working to make the cars safer in a crash. Just look at how drivers now walk away from horrific crashes that would have killed him maybe 10 years ago.

In Champ Car a few years back, there were problems with drivers blacking out during cornering on some of the higher banked super speedways.

A well conditioned driver should be able to accommodate up to 4+ G's for sustained periods. I don't thinks there's any F1 car that can yet produce that sort of sustained condition during cornering or braking. So it's probably not a big concern.

riff_raff

[Scotracer]

driving slower - , will reduce the g-forces considerably

This.

[xpensive]

How I hate this "G-force" xpression, when what it's really about is accelleration, which is measured in meters per second squared. One "g" is the typical earth-accelleration, 9.81 m/s^2, which is sometimes used as a comparison.

Therefore there is nothing like a "G-force", G-men or my mistress' G-spot perhaps, but never ever a G-force.

[Just_a_fan]

How I hate this "G-force" xpression, when what it's really about is accelleration, which is measured in meters per second squared. One "g" is the typical earth-accelleration, 9.81 m/s^2, which is sometimes used as a comparison.

Therefore there is nothing like a "G-force", G-men or my mistress' G-spot perhaps, but never ever a G-force.

G-force is like Mach. It's a convenient way of expressing a multiple of some otherwise unwieldy number.

I can say "I experienced an acceleration of 29.43m/s^2" or I can say "I pulled 3g". Both are equally valid.

[xpensive]

But accelleration is not force, for crying out loud!

[Just_a_fan]

But accelleration is not force, for crying out loud!

Of course not but sometimes convenience is more important than accuracy. What is important is that everyone involved knows what is meant by the term used, which in this situation, is the case.

It's annoying but then life is so often annoying