Renault R30

[timbo]

afaik every team is running them

Why do you think so?
Do you remember why Toyotas started from the last row at Australia'09?

[wesley123]

yes because of it flexing too much, as long as you stay within the limits.

[timbo]

yes because of it flexing too much, as long as you stay within the limits.

Benefit of flexi rear wing (which was stalling at high speed, same as F-duct) was eliminated when FIA required spacers between wing planes.
So you can only gey so much from it, it differs greatly from front wing which if you lower it enough works in ground-effect conditions.

[raymondu999]

you have to remember though that everything flexes. It might just be a few microns/nanometers/micrometers whatever, but it WILL flex. It's just that they manufacture the wings to flex to a certain limit.

[Morteza]

Renault's front wing for Monza:

[Neno]

Renault's front wing for Monza:

not flexible, ha?

[mith]

Do you see any changes in the wing since Spa? I don't.

[quidam]

Do you see any changes in the wing since Spa? I don't.

[wesley123]

it isnt new, it is the same wing as run at spa, with the gurney's

[quidam]

it isnt new, it is the same wing as run at spa, with the gurney's

Spa during the race :

[PlatinumZealot]

The Monza wing has an additional Horizontal Red member to the endplate.

Anyway.. a change to the front wing does not subtract as much drag as a change to the rear wing. This is due to the bulky body of the car being behind the front wing. So we may see teams running the same or slightly modified front wings instead of wings with reduced bumber profiles.

[mith]

OK, you're right. It was slightly cut on the second plate and they've added that small red bit. But I think, that black gurney flap was there already.

Anyway.. a change to the front wing does not subtract as much drag as a change to the rear wing. This is due to the bulky body of the car being behind the front wing. So we may see teams running the same or slightly modified front wings instead of wings with reduced bumber profiles.

At Canada Renault went a bit too far with reducing the front wing and they had tyre problems (all teams had, but Kubica pitted one more time than most other drivers), so maybe they're not eager to make that mistake once again.

[zgred]

[marcush.]

they run that second wing with the v-shaped cutout in the flap ..always nice new touches of original thinking with renault this year.. =D> =D> =D>

[zgred]

There is strange triangle shape at the upper element end of the rear wing.