Italian GP 2010 - Monza

[donskar]

How many Monza poles did MS take in a red car anyway? Now he finds himself in 12th spot, sandwiched by a Force India and a Sauber, his young team-mate in Q3, makes me wonder why he bothers with this, like watching your mother drunk.

Well, he's not doing it for money. And if he came back out of ego, then he'll soon be gone, because he has not come within a sniff of a win. He was placed on a pedestal as the "savior" of Ferrari (deservedly), but he can't see himself as the savior of the team that won WCC and WDC just one year ago. Could it be some sort of patriotic/nationalistic motivation? Mercedes/Germany/Schumacher uber alles? Interesting sidebar to this and every other race this season.

My prediction: Button, Massa, Hamilton, Vettel

[Shrieker]

Webber held up Hamilton at the last try. Hamilton slowed down in the run to parabolica before his final lap to allow himself some gap but Webber slowed down too. Unfortunately Hamilton made an error in his first lap at the 2nd chicane. He could've easily gotten a front row position.

What rot, Hamilton said himself that he screwed up by not using the F-Duct and was sliding all over the place thru out all of qually.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86596

Guys, Lewis posted a 22.4 in the morning practise and that was without the f-duct too. The only logical explanation to this is the one dougskullery has given.

Different conditions mate, what he did in P3* means nothing!

*usually slightly cooler conditions in the morning for starters.

The track condition usually improves from practise to quali as you know, and as was the case here today. Virtually everyone posted better times in qualifying compared to the practise.

If Lewis says that the current config he used today was the 'wrong' choice then that doesn't explain everything. For once, it doesn't explain how he ended up posting a slower time in qualifying contrary to everyone else. Sounds to me an excuse to get rid of the media real quick and focus onto the job at hand.

[djos]

meh, he made a mistake and has admitted it, case closed.

My prediction: Button, Massa, Hamilton, Vettel

My prediction: Alonso, Massa, Webber

[andrew]

Not too long ago the whole Monza crowd was laughing and pointing at Alonso when his Renault engine exploded and he was out of the race.

Now they kiss his feet and praise him as if he just came down from heaven.

Ferrari, the biggest bandwagon on the planet.

The tifosi are very fickle it would seem.

[Sean H]

Hamilton screwed up. You can blame the car, the team, the conditions or the driver. But none except the latter missed the chicane on his first stint in Q3. As far as being behind MW, LH could have easily slowed even more to give himself a proper gap. He selected the distance behind the Red Bull even if MW did slow to give himself more of a gap.

It wasn't like LH was going to win the pole in any event. He may have improved a spot or two, but I don't think he was going to get past Massa much less Button.


Ferrari 1-2 with Alonso taking the win (team orders or not)...... Hopefully Vettel spears LH to make it a clean sweep of Macca cars in back to back races, then MW can finish off his engine issues by blowing up in front of Button. Thus, bringing back a truly exciting WDC and WCC.

[ell66]

Hamilton screwed up. You can blame the car, the team, the conditions or the driver. But none except the latter missed the chicane on his first stint in Q3. As far as being behind MW, LH could have easily slowed even more to give himself a proper gap. He selected the distance behind the Red Bull even if MW did slow to give himself more of a gap.

It wasn't like LH was going to win the pole in any event. He may have improved a spot or two, but I don't think he was going to get past Massa much less Button.


Ferrari 1-2 with Alonso taking the win (team orders or not)...... Hopefully Vettel spears LH to make it a clean sweep of Macca cars in back to back races, then MW can finish off his engine issues by blowing up in front of Button. Thus, bringing back a truly exciting WDC and WCC.

err what? lol
had lewis just gone a single tenth faster than his q2 time he'd of been in 3rd very close to jenson.

[feynman]

My feeling with Hamilton is that, when he pushed that little bit harder for Q3, he realised the set-up had nothing left to give. He tried to over-drive the car, and inevitably he lost out. It'd be stupid to pin the whole blame on the configuration, or on Hamilton himself. Rather, the set-up didn't leave much room for improvement in Q3, and the driver was caught by surprise and made a mess of things.

Correct, give that man a coconut.

Everyone else went 3-tenths faster from Q2 to Q3, Lewis went 3-tenths slower. That has nothing to do with wing level, everything to do with two scrappy laps.

[nacho]

Seems like the Renault-engined cars are suffering, it really seems that Cosworth has more grunt. Interesting to see if manage to have any less fuel onboard and possible have an advantage in the beginning of the race.

[djos]

Also interesting to note that the top 4 cars where all running F-Ducts!

imo Lewis is going to have tire longevity issues in the race running the Low-DF package.

[ell66]

Also interesting to note that the top 4 cars where all running F-Ducts!

imo Lewis is going to have tire longevity issues in the race running the Low-DF package.

I dont think so, theres been no real degredation to speak of this weekend.
are they all starting on the soft tyre????

[TheRMVR]

Very good lap of Alonso, outclassed them all. Button makes sure that he isn't a second driver at McLaren and Webber makes the most of it.

I don't think the RedBull will be capable of overtaking, Hamilton will struggle tomorrow so I predict: Alonso, Button, Massa.

[Sean H]

Hamilton screwed up. You can blame the car, the team, the conditions or the driver. But none except the latter missed the chicane on his first stint in Q3. As far as being behind MW, LH could have easily slowed even more to give himself a proper gap. He selected the distance behind the Red Bull even if MW did slow to give himself more of a gap.

It wasn't like LH was going to win the pole in any event. He may have improved a spot or two, but I don't think he was going to get past Massa much less Button.


Ferrari 1-2 with Alonso taking the win (team orders or not)...... Hopefully Vettel spears LH to make it a clean sweep of Macca cars in back to back races, then MW can finish off his engine issues by blowing up in front of Button. Thus, bringing back a truly exciting WDC and WCC.

You are correct, had he gone quicker he would of done better.

You have to love the LH fanboys. Anything done well is all him, any shortcomings and it is something else at fault.

err what? lol
had lewis just gone a single tenth faster than his q2 time he'd of been in 3rd very close to jenson.

[zeph]

Glad to see Alonso on pole. That should keep his many detractors quiet, at least until tomorrow.

It looks like it's gonna be an interesting race for the championship. Too bad I won't be able to watch it, but if the qualification is any indication for the race results it should make for a very exciting end of the season!

[zgred]

And the result is: -5.

Petrov penalised for impeding Glock

[raymondu999]

Has anyone noticed that Webber was faster than Vettel mainly in S1 (where straightline speed shows more) and was 3km/h faster in a straight line? :s