Mercedes GP - Inauguration and 1st season

[strad]

Schumacher ain't goin nowhere.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Schumacher ain't goin nowhere.

I agree.
The stupid thing is people think he will come back for a year, linger in midfield, then quit. Schumacher may quit, as nothing is set in stone but I think it highly unlikely.
The scenario for me will be that he will be there until at least the first 5 races of next year to to see if a) the car is any good, b) wether he is up to the task in a fast car.

All the mumblings of Eddie Jordan and Jonathan Legard is rubbish. Drivers managers were seen coming in and out of the Mercedes motorhome for a very simple reason. They lack a reserve driver after Heidfeld left to be Pirelli's top tester.

That wont get many column inches online or in the press but its the most valid explanation that doesnt rely on an Irish clown or a bumbling commentator.

[xpensive]

Schumacher ain't goin nowhere.

Why would he indeed, now that he's buying the outfit, lock, livestock and barrel?

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Schumacher ain't goin nowhere.

Why would he indeed, now that he's buying the outfit, lock, livestock and barrel?

You do come up with some stuff dont you X

Nissan-AMG, Schumacher-Mercedes, ReliantRobin-Red bull...........

[marcush.]

I have to admit I like the idea ...of a Schumacher Brawn gang... And for ross it would be the golden chance to really go into F1 history with another miracle story...given they succeed .

[xpensive]

There you go marcush, what better way to end your F1 career than creating an eponymous team, no driver has done that since John Surtees. Or Arturo Merzario and Jackie Stewart perhaps.

[marcush.]

EXP not to forget :Graham Hill
Fittipaldi (not really as he was driver in his brothers
team)
and Alain Prost ..he has no charisma ..but so does Schumacher.

and not to forget Mansell ,Rosberg with Teams ..but not sure if those count as they are not F1.

[gibells]

Don't forget Jackie Stewart's team is on the brink of winning their first ever championship.

[xpensive]

Come now, the "Hill" was little more than a Shadow or Lola, while Prost's "all-French" thing, though british engineered of course, lasted about twenty minutes. Fittipaldi? I wonder if Emerson wishes to discuss that period of his career?

If you wanna call RBR "Stewart", well that's a bit of a stretch, no?

[gridwalker]

True : that would be kinda like calling FI "Jordan"

[segedunum]

Schumacher ain't goin nowhere.

More and more people are not agreeing with you:

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/09/ ... chumacher/

I don't think it's because he can't keep up with Rosberg because I can fully understand how a driver could have difficulty with aspects of a car. The problem for me driving-wise is simply how he hasn't managed to adapt at all with all the telemetry available to him.

I think the real reason he's backing out is because he's cleverly realised how long it's going to take to get that team into winning shape. He has more experience with that than any other driver. The question then becomes why did he come back now, and I believe that he thought Mercedes would carry on where Brawn left off. There's no other explanation because there's no way Schumacher was going to get involved in another four or five year Ferrari-type project before he starts winning. He just doesn't have the time.

The Brawn/Schumacher management team theory gathers pace.

[segedunum]

All the mumblings of Eddie Jordan and Jonathan Legard is rubbish. Drivers managers were seen coming in and out of the Mercedes motorhome for a very simple reason. They lack a reserve driver after Heidfeld left to be Pirelli's top tester.

I'm afraid that a plethora of managers and drivers were not going into that motorhome to trade a front-line drive in a midfield team to be a reserve driver in another midfield team JET. Sorry, but it's a position that doesn't generate that kind of excitement.

[marcush.]

Merzario team was little more than Kauhsen --or what willi managed to sell to poor Arturo..
i recently read about Fittipaldis years in F1 ..as a constructor..they even had a Computer back then! Divila today maintains that it was Emmo himself who led them into the woods and they could not find out from there.. .

Prost for sure was not only B3Technologies. Ligier was doing quite well when Monsieur Prost took over...



Lets face it .Schumacher expected a winning car in year one.I ´m pretty much convinced that he thought even after the winter tests that upgrades will bring them into striking distance to at least bring him into a position where he could
land a coup.
But realistically that car is barely podium material and apart from reliability
there is only the good point that it had just two races where it was not capable of scoring points.But that is owed more to the new points system than anything else.
So even if he had digged in deep into his brains to release all his talent..he would still not have been able to win a race this year with that car. Nobody would have and that is one of the reasons why he does not move forward.
The question is really :will the current team produce a significant step forward for 2011? We will see very soon howMichaels feelings are as I´m sure he´s not prepared to work three years till the first win and leave the laurels to whoever
is prepared to drive for them .
Poor Nico ...It seems he has taken the all wrong decision there on his way to a WDC.. his aim should have been Mclaren or Ferrari as it looks .Having beaten Schumacher ..if he retires now ..will not be the career enhancer he thought it would be.And tbh Sutil as a teammate would not be either.

[Morteza]

Thanks Marcus
On paper the team was a winning one. It had both 2009 championships with Ross Brawn and support of Mercedes, every driver would like to drive for them. But the reality is something totally different. The car they had is not a top one and their development pace is to be honest awful. How they will turn out in 2011 is what I really looking forward to.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

All the mumblings of Eddie Jordan and Jonathan Legard is rubbish. Drivers managers were seen coming in and out of the Mercedes motorhome for a very simple reason. They lack a reserve driver after Heidfeld left to be Pirelli's top tester.

I'm afraid that a plethora of managers and drivers were not going into that motorhome to trade a front-line drive in a midfield team to be a reserve driver in another midfield team JET. Sorry, but it's a position that doesn't generate that kind of excitement.

You do realise these guys have more than 1 driver on their books right?
But I guess you would put more on the word of Jordan and Legard as it has somthing negative to do with the team.....