Mercedes GP MGP W01

[i70q7m7ghw]

Ross Brawn spoke about only being able to use the adjustable rear wing when you are within 1-2 seconds of a lead car.

I'm not really too thrilled about the idea of a moveable rear wing. But I do like the idea of when it can be used. I've been saying for ages now that KERS should only be available when you are within 1-2 seconds of a lead car, so basically it can't be used to defend. Obviously as well the capactiy of KERS and how quickly it can recharge will come in to play because it will be getting used alot more.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

+1 diesel,
The lower rear wing will only move when the car behind is within a specified time.
A passive F-duct would still be worthwhile IMO (if legit)
Thinking about the return of KERS, this is also a massive boost for Mercedes with their Zytek/Mercedes units.

[aral]

+1 diesel,
The lower rear wing will only move when the car behind is within a specified time.
A passive F-duct would still be worthwhile IMO (if legit)
Thinking about the return of KERS, this is also a massive boost for Mercedes with their Zytek/Mercedes units.

I think that KERS will be a boost for everyone, as all cars must use it. =D> =D>

[dren]

I wish the KERS regulations were a lot more open. We'd see some exciting solutions I think.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Some more than others gilgen....

[Shaddock]

+1 diesel,
The lower rear wing will only move when the car behind is within a specified time.
A passive F-duct would still be worthwhile IMO (if legit)
Thinking about the return of KERS, this is also a massive boost for Mercedes with their Zytek/Mercedes units.

I think that KERS will be a boost for everyone, as all cars must use it. =D> =D>

Do they?, are thought it was still optional, I'm not sure how you can enforce it through the regs, as you will have teams that don't wont to run a KERS fitting a 1.5v AA NiCAD battery to windscreen washer motor and an elastic band to the driveshaft.

[aral]

+1 diesel,
The lower rear wing will only move when the car behind is within a specified time.
A passive F-duct would still be worthwhile IMO (if legit)
Thinking about the return of KERS, this is also a massive boost for Mercedes with their Zytek/Mercedes units.

I think that KERS will be a boost for everyone, as all cars must use it. =D> =D>

Do they?, are thought it was still optional, I'm not sure how you can enforce it through the regs, as you will have teams that don't wont to run a KERS fitting a 1.5v AA NiCAD battery to windscreen washer motor and an elastic band to the driveshaft.

Sorry, should have said that it is a compusory fitting next year, however the use of it may be optional.

[i70q7m7ghw]

Sorry, should have said that it is a compusory fitting next year, however the use of it may be optional.

Source?

[aral]

Sorry, should have said that it is a compusory fitting next year, however the use of it may be optional.

Source?

FIA regs, and FOTA agreement!

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Again...source!

Compulsory KERS running is not part of 2011 rules AFAIK

[aral]

Again...source!

Compulsory KERS running is not part of 2011 rules AFAIK

Again.......FIA rules and FOTA agreement!

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

"But while it has been suggested that another major problem for KERS in 2009 is that the systems were voluntary to run, it has emerged that the units will not be compulsory in 2011. "

ESPN F1
http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsport ... 20379.html

As for the rules, I cant find it anywhere to suggest teams have to run KERS.

[mx_tifoso]

Guys, since this car is still currently being updated I'm going to have to ask you to please not get into the 2011 design or KERS regulations for that matter.

I would suggest directing your 2011 related thoughts into this thread: Clean sheet design for 2011 regs

The same goes for the other 2010 cars which are still being updated (pretty much all of them except the HRT).

[Timstr]

A bit of an illustration of how disruptive last year was for the Brawn team:
http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/3150 (Mark Hughes, Subs only)

"In the interests of fairness, we simply said that every department had to lose 40 per cent," said Brawn, something regretfully. "It was as crude as that. We had no other mechanism to go through the company and say, two from here, five from there."

A lot of good people were lost in that cull, not necessarily big names, but engineers that were a crucial part of forming a team's backbone, that helped ensure their departments could run with a certain degree of autonomy. The group that was left was not only shellshocked by the cull and the loss of several key working relationships, but had to establish a whole new dynamic.

Into that mix throw in the departure of a senior member of the engineering staff - Jorg Zander, who left early last year - and it's not really so surprising in hindsight that the car was a little unadventurous. Its gearbox, for example, was too short to make really aggressive use of the twin diffuser.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Timstr

I would agree with all that, and it makes perfect sense. It isnt an excuse he is spinning, its the reality of the situation.
Despite what some may say, Brawn provides facts and numbers to back up the reality. And I have said this before, he didnt sack 400 tea ladies!