Brazilian GP 2010 - Interlagos

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well he has 100% finish rate for wet races this year.
He's on top. :wink:
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Actually the real knig had a catastrophic failure of the propulsion device. Everything else behind was inherited.

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ringo wrote:Nope, webber has this in the bag.
If alonso can only muster 3rd place in every race, while webber comes first in at least 1 and second in the other, Webber's fine. Vettel just has to humble himself and let webber take this.
So far the redbull looks comfortably dominant.

Mclaren has more i feel. I think they're about equal with the ferrari albeit slightly slower.
Is that all MW has to do? a 1st and 2nd? That should be easy for the guy who hasn't won a race in 3 months.

Lewis did do a good job of matching Massa's pace.
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timbo wrote:
Kriss wrote:Petrov once again :D
Anybody can say me what Petrov doing in Formula1?
Time to say Good Bye Vitaly.
Koboyashi crashed in the same exact place too. So it might be bad luck.
But actually I think we can see a trend here — Piquet came to Renault showing quite a few promises, it seemed like he progressed but suddenly came to stall, Grosjean too, now Petrov seemed like making quite a steady progress and then suddenly lost it.
Maybe it is Renault (at least to some extend) and not those guys?
I guess that says that Renault isn't a good place for a young driver to mature... lol.
andrew wrote:Actually the real knig had a catastrophic failure of the propulsion device. Everything else behind was inherited.
Hear hear.
FrukostScones wrote:Thats correct! But a King is always on top!
n smikle wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:Yeah, but with rain to come and things going strange, Alonso is always there when it counts (maybe not in Spa). And the McLarens were very understeery today. And like we' ve seen in Korea, Hamilton is not the rain-King anymore.
No.. the car just sucks in the rain now. Korea Hamilton 2nd, Button 12th...
He can be the rain queen. Or Jack.
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Gerhard Berger wrote:Not sure what you're talking about. I was referring to engine #8 (the one that did Monza). I never mentioned anything about the Bahrain engines.
The Monza engine won't do Abu Dhabi since it has higher mileage and has been stressed higher. They wouldn't want to use it in this race never mind both of the last two races, if indeed they do decide to use it. They'll use the engine they changed after Bahrain that they couldn't use for reasons I'd explained. Can't remember what the engine number was, but it's certainly the only engine they have that has low mileage.
Well an engine expiring on the button is not worry. If it was expiring earlier than expected, then that would be a worry. However, that is not the case.
I don't think you understand. There will be statistical variances around it as I'd said, which means that Ferrari don't want to be using an engine anywhere close to its mileage limit if there's a definite cutoff window. The engine is a large worry this weekend.

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Hopefully it is gonna be a wet/mixed qualifying. Action guaranteed in Interlagos (they should race there twice a year)!... Light rain is predicted.

My rain King list: hamilton, alonso, rosberg, vettel, schumi, sutil, ???
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Why was WB suspened???
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segedunum wrote: The Monza engine won't do Abu Dhabi since it has higher mileage and has been stressed higher. They wouldn't want to use it in this race never mind both of the last two races, if indeed they do decide to use it. They'll use the engine they changed after Bahrain that they couldn't use for reasons I'd explained. Can't remember what the engine number was, but it's certainly the only engine they have that has low mileage.
The Bahrain qualifying unit (engine #1) expired way back in China FP. The Bahrain race unit (engine #2) expired today. Obviously, neither can be used again. The Monza engine doesn't have a particularly high mileage (it's only done one race) though yes it has been put under alot of stress in that race. Ferrari don't really have an option though, all the other engines have done 3 races.
I don't think you understand. There will be statistical variances around it as I'd said, which means that Ferrari don't want to be using an engine anywhere close to its mileage limit if there's a definite cutoff window. The engine is a large worry this weekend.
The Monza engine isn't anywhere close to its mileage limit, so it's irrelevent. The engine is a large worry this weekend? So you think an engine can not last 2 races? In that case, i guess the engine is a large worry for the Red Bulls and the Mclarens this weekend.

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill regarding Alonso's engine siutation.

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andrew wrote:Actually the real knig had a catastrophic failure of the propulsion device. Everything else behind was inherited.
The Pawn always goes out first to test the waters. He lays down the rubber for the king then his services are no longer needed. :lol:

Jokes aside. Vettel is very very confident and exceptional in the wet, i've taken note of that. I don't know how he deals with following in the spray though. He faded in China, the biggest test of wet weather driving this year, not to mention spa.

If he's in the front when it rains he'll run off. But if he some how falls back, he's BOSS food 8) .

I'm keeping an eye on Alonso, i think he'll spin out in the rain. He loves to ride curbs more than anyone else. In Singapore he cut 4 or 5 meters of the lap distance by curb riding, compared to Massa.
Turns 8 and 10 is where alonso is riding the whole car over. Let's see if he learned from Spa.
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FrukostScones wrote:Why was WB suspened???
Extreme patriotism, taking their own opinion as Gospel and belittling opposing opinions due to deep routed self belief I suspect. But I guess it is easy to get carried away at times on threads like these. :oops:

Anyhoo onto the Brasilian GP.

Anyone see this: http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/ ... ps_Alonso/
Surely it should the the brains behind the scheme that should be in hot water? Does that make Alonso's ill gotten gain in Germany stolen goods or goods obtained fraudulently? If this is true it is just totally bizare.
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OK, but here is the discharge... :lol:
Barrichello: ... People ask me if I have known the circuit forever and you have got to remember when I raced Formula Fords here I raced on the old circuit. It was the last year of the older one and I am so proud to have done that as it has been such a long and nice one.

Senna: It has been a long time, huh?

Barrichello: Yeah, it was. You were probably not born, you bastard. But anyway in a way I raced here from Formula Three in 1990 or something. I had one race and then I came into Formula One, so all I know about this circuit is in a Formula One car. It is very, very special. It has been bumpy sometimes in the past but now I think it is all done. It is a nice circuit. I can read that people like coming here. Racing is very, very alive because of the nature of the straight with tiny bits of bends that makes it draggy and you have a chance to have a slipstream, so it is a very special race.
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Ultimate laps
An ultimate lap is a drivers’ best three times in each sector added together.

Pos. Car Driver Car Ultimate lap Gap Deficit to best
1 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’11.955 0.117
2 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’11.964 0.009 0.004
3 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’12.328 0.373 0.000
4 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’12.600 0.645 0.056
5 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’12.663 0.708 0.219
6 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’12.677 0.722 0.000
7 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’13.115 1.160 0.091
8 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’13.138 1.183 0.208
9 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’13.148 1.193 0.185
10 22 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Ferrari 1’13.152 1.197 0.070
11 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’13.412 1.457 0.108
12 10 Nico Hülkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’13.485 1.530 0.240
13 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’13.610 1.655 0.000
14 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’13.651 1.696 0.090
15 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’13.754 1.799 0.291
16 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’13.768 1.813 0.050
17 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’14.082 2.127 0.222
18 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’14.187 2.232 0.391
19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’14.966 3.011 0.018
20 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1’15.101 3.146 0.000
21 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1’15.336 3.381 0.097
22 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’15.971 4.016 0.099
23 20 Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 1’16.033 4.078 0.049
24 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’16.042 4.087 0.108

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Univex, what's the sense of that? It would be logical to analyze that if there are no setup changes. But if you change your setup to improve in a sector to the detriment of another one, your "ultimate lap" will be better than others'
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Live stream of FP1 if anyone interested :)
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Caito wrote:Univex, what's the sense of that? It would be logical to analyze that if there are no setup changes. But if you change your setup to improve in a sector to the detriment of another one, your "ultimate lap" will be better than others'
It's from F1 Fanatic. In almost all cases, especially for the top teams, the ultimate laps are from sector times on the same runs, i.e., low fuel and soft tires. There is often only one run on this qualy setup so the fastest sectors come from this.
It higlights the case where drivers may be trying to hide their true potential.