Brazilian GP 2010 - Interlagos

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kalinka wrote:I can't imagine that with this lineup, all the title contenders can survive the first corner. It's dangerous in much relaxed situations too, but with this lineup....whoa...hope Lewis will survive.
I think they might actually surprise us and manage to keep off each other! I'd be most worried about kamikaze moves from Hamilton and Vettel, since they are most desperate for a win than the other 2 contenders, and since they have both shown us already what they can do! :lol:

I think Hulkenberg managed to put together an amazing lap and got a worthy pole, but it did look, and seems reasonable, that all the title contenders were also a bit too cautious. I mean, such a huge difference from the Red Bulls on such a short track is definitely down to more than one factor.. Still, well done to Nico and Williams for showing them how it's done!

On a bitter note, I also think Button and Massa's performances really showcase how they feel about the title situation. Despite all the comments on the press about helping teams and team mates, it seems none of them really cares that much about Lewis or Fernando winning the title, and it shows! Being way off the front is probably the best way to avoid having to follow team orders..
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andartop wrote: I think Hulkenberg managed to put together an amazing lap and got a worthy pole, but it did look, and seems reasonable, that all the title contenders were also a bit too cautious. I mean, such a huge difference from the Red Bulls on such a short track is definitely down to more than one factor.. Still, well done to Nico and Williams for showing them how it's done!

On a bitter note, I also think Button and Massa's performances really showcase how they feel about the title situation. Despite all the comments on the press about helping teams and team mates, it seems none of them really cares that much about Lewis or Fernando winning the title, and it shows! Being way off the front is probably the best way to avoid having to follow team orders..
I completely disagree!

Why the hell would Vettel and LH drive slowly, when lets be honest their only chance at the title is to win tomorrow? Did Vettel have a sit down with Mark and tell him to quali a tenth behind him? All of this is rubbish, they were all pushing as hard as they could hence why the gap between Mark and Vettel, Alonso and Massa and lastly LH and JB were about the same as they have been all year. The fact of the matter is that NH drove brilliantly and made the most of his car given the track conditions.

Lastly Massa and Jb do not make a conscious decision to drive poorly as to be out of position to possibly not help their team mate. They fundamentally lack the pace, case closed.

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Hi Everyone...

I just wanna say something guys ...

Vitaly Petrov who set his fastest Q3 time with the intermediate,,, I wonder if Petrov will be a green surface free option or prime in the race ? 25.4(d) use of tyres is not clear this situation..! but I think free yours is choice according to rule 25.4c :?:

Thanks...
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Ayrton Senna wrote:Hi Everyone...

I just wanna say something guys ...

Vitaly Petrov who set his fastest Q3 time with the intermediate,,, I wonder if Petrov will be a green surface free option or prime in the race ? 25.4(d) use of tyres is not clear this situation..! but I think free yours is choice... :?:

Thanks...
I am pretty sure in this case if your best time was set on inters or wets, then you are able to choose either or tire.

The key question is, qualifying was declared "wet". If the race is declared "dry", does everyone get to start on fresh tires?

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Many Thanks Tomba - Great coverage of qualifying.

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Terrible3 wrote: I completely disagree!

Why the hell would Vettel and LH drive slowly, when lets be honest their only chance at the title is to win tomorrow? Did Vettel have a sit down with Mark and tell him to quali a tenth behind him? All of this is rubbish, they were all pushing as hard as they could hence why the gap between Mark and Vettel, Alonso and Massa and lastly LH and JB were about the same as they have been all year. The fact of the matter is that NH drove brilliantly and made the most of his car given the track conditions.

Lastly Massa and Jb do not make a conscious decision to drive poorly as to be out of position to possibly not help their team mate. They fundamentally lack the pace, case closed.
I didn't say anyone drove slowly..but a bit cautiously perhaps. Both Vettel and Hamilton are still in the fight for the championship but a mistake in either qualy or the race could wipe them off the picture. Hence, I think, all 4 title contenders were not giving it 100% under such treacherous conditions. Surely Nico drove brilliantly, as I acknowledged, but do you seriously believe he suddenly "found" 1 second on the Red Bulls out of nowhere?

Massa and Button have been slower all year, that's a fact. Knowing they have no chance for the title, and that they will be given team orders if they are in front of their team mates certainly does not help a driver's psychology to give it that extra bit of effort, especially under slippery conditions. And to be fair, why should they?
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Terrible3 wrote:
komninosm wrote:I predict Webber crashes on Hulk :p
I predict Mark and LH incident. Marks a poor starter and he tends to force the issue on people who have passed him (LH twice in Melbourne, SV in Turkey and LH Singapore). It should be exciting none the less.
Marks had a few bad starts from the dirty side but it's lewis & Seb on the dirty side for this race! 8)

Amazing laps from Hulk tho, truly epic performance and exactly 100 races since the last Williams Pole. =D>
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MikeFromCanada wrote:
Ayrton Senna wrote:Hi Everyone...

I just wanna say something guys ...

Vitaly Petrov who set his fastest Q3 time with the intermediate,,, I wonder if Petrov will be a green surface free option or prime in the race ? 25.4(d) use of tyres is not clear this situation..! but I think free yours is choice... :?:

Thanks...
I am pretty sure in this case if your best time was set on inters or wets, then you are able to choose either or tire.

The key question is, qualifying was declared "wet". If the race is declared "dry", does everyone get to start on fresh tires?
Pretty sure he has the choice, and if so he can have a fresh set of primes giving an extra 4M of traction over the "quali used" primes the others set their laps on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/5010

Looking changeable, and maybes that "random event" that the teams are now talking about will happen.

Hulkenberg for the win anyone, Webber P2 and Alonso and Vettel having a set-to somewhere damaging Alonsos #8 056 badly enough it is broken.

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je, have you guys heard about JB?
On Saturday evening (November 6) on the way back from the Interlagos circuit to Morumbi (Sao Paulo), armed would-be assailants made an attempt to approach the car that was carrying Jenson Button.

Neither Jenson nor the other occupants of the car were hurt. [...]

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes had provided both Jenson and team-mate Lewis Hamilton with reinforced armoured vehicles driven by police drivers, who had been trained in avoidance techniques and were armed.

The police driver of Jenson’s vehicle reacted swiftly and, using avoidance techniques, rapidly forced his way through the traffic, taking Jenson and the other occupants of the car immediately away from any danger and back to their hotel. [...]
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/11/07/b ... in-attack/
i wonder how thats gonna affect him in the race, or if at all :?

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MikeFromCanada wrote:
Ayrton Senna wrote:Hi Everyone...

I just wanna say something guys ...

Vitaly Petrov who set his fastest Q3 time with the intermediate,,, I wonder if Petrov will be a green surface free option or prime in the race ? 25.4(d) use of tyres is not clear this situation..! but I think free yours is choice... :?:

Thanks...
I am pretty sure in this case if your best time was set on inters or wets, then you are able to choose either or tire.

The key question is, qualifying was declared "wet". If the race is declared "dry", does everyone get to start on fresh tires?
I was wondering changes to the set-up are also allowed? If the quali was wet and the race is likely dry, I suppose yes...

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Perhaps, Rubens may be thinking something like this: "I am the one who is bringing the most development work to this Wiliams. And now, Hulk has the credit of earning Williams' first pole. Sigh, that pole should have been mine." :lol:
From http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/11/i ... rand-prix/, Barrichello was the first to go to slicks and he made a mistake, going off and losing temperature which he was then unable to get back.
Well, at that time, Hulk thought that it was still too early to use slick. Only when his race engineer advised him to go for it, he charged to slicks and the rest happened as we know. His skill is important, not to mention that he is lucky too.
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In regards to FP1 or 2;
raceman wrote:whoa! quite a close encounter between Kobayashi and Rosberg!
I got the impression that it was a similar event to what happened when Vettel speared into Button. Kobayashi pulled out from behind and almost lost control (oversteer IIRC), but luckily he reeled it in.
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So does the Hulk lead after the first lap? Betfair bettors have it priced to the yes at about 55% haha. Have to think Vettel and Mark are going to be more concerned with each other and Alonso/Hamilton behind them, the later always capable of doing something ultra-aggro at 1st corner. Webber has been messing up every start for a while now. Lewis and Alonso are going to be fun to watch.

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I reckon Webber has a damn good chance of sneaking by while Hulk is fending off Seb.
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^^ I hope so.