Ground effect aircraft efficiencies

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TheMinister
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Slightly off topic I know, but I figure as it's aero, and especially a ground effect question, it's in roughly the right place. Please feel free to move if you want mods, I won't be offended.

So 1st year flight project (doing aero eng at uni) we have just received- building a small aircraft that will fly round a pole using as little power as possible. Power is supplied down the wire, the idea being that it's dialled down as low as possible without the aircraft crashing, and has to do 10 rounds on that power. Motor is supplied, along with prop. Construction can be of balsa wood and glue (supplied) and anything you can get for free. Exotic designs are STRONGLY ENCOURAGED.

Hope that gives a vague idea of the challenge, now here's the interesting bit.

I'd like to look at building some kind of Wing-in-ground effect craft- sometimes known as ekranoplans or ground-effect-vehicles. I'm sure everybody is at least vaguely familiar with ground effect aerodynamics, (although I do want to be generating lift rather than downforce), perhaps take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle if it's not completely clear in your mind.

Supposedly there are mahoosive efficiency gains for using it on a large craft, although they reduce as craft get smaller. The question is- can I get that extra couple of percent over other possible designs. The simplest solution seems to be building a scaled down glider- I've also heard talk of other exotic designs, such as smaller versions of the NASA Helios concept http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Prototype.

I've had a little trouble finding precedents for my idea- it seems WIG craft have always been used as heavy lift or high speed vehicles, with minimal fuel burn being low on the list of requirement- so has anyone seen/heard/dreamt of anything pertinent to the general idea? What sort of problems would I expect to encounter with this? Where can I eek out maximum efficency, can I beat a basic glider design, and most importantly- is it remotely feasible?

Any help, thoughts, comments, outrage and controversy very welcome.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k2xkj7FmQQ

Try the most efficient method of lift first, there is far to much drag in ground effect.
Unpowered rotor is the best way to go.

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I can't think that a rotary wing would achieve success. Scan Wikipedia for articles on human-powered flight. Make it light, make it slow, minimize lift-induced drag. Longitudinal stability is probably the most interesting problem to solve. Ground effect may well be your friend in that respect.

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An unpowered rotor converts much of what would otherwise be drag into lift.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jml3H7JFsNg

Just design the rotor span and chord to suit and build a light and very streamlined nacelle.

Most of our light autogyros fly on 60hp and can go 700 miles.

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autogyro wrote:Most of our light autogyros fly on 60hp and can go 700 miles.
Forgive me, auto, but a man-powered fixed wing aircraft has, I believe, been flown from England to France using just 1 percent of the power you quoted. It might be possible for an autogyro to match that accomplishment, but I don't think anybody has tried & succeeded.

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Interesting Dave.
Kens W116 can lift three times its own weight on 60hp.
An increased rotor diameter and lighter materials might well exceed the capability of a fixed wing man powered aircraft.
There is no problem with pedaling while maintaining control either.
The W116 is also the most stable aircraft ever built and can fly in over 70 knot winds. Full trimmed hands off flight is simple.

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W/C Ken Wallis is a remarkable man, for whom I have the greatest respect. I guess he would be the best (& only?) person to consult on the possibility.

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DaveW wrote:W/C Ken Wallis is a remarkable man, for whom I have the greatest respect. I guess he would be the best (& only?) person to consult on the possibility.
I shall be having lunch with Ken this week and will bring up the idea then.
I was at a Sci Fi Fair at the UEA Norwich UK on Sunday with Ken and one of his aircraft. I was talking to Chris Barrie (Rimmer in Rad Dwarf) about his possible involvment in a fully electric version of the aircraft.
We have calculated an endurance of an hour plus with a good role capable payload as well as the batteries. Intersting?
A man powered version may also be practical.
I still say a model could be made more efficient than a ground effects aircraft for this threads project.

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Great. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say...

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why not build a blimp

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flynfrog wrote:why not build a blimp
Now that is real lateral thinking.... Probably wouldn't be appreciated by academia, however (ask a stupid question & ...)

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DaveW wrote:
flynfrog wrote:why not build a blimp
Now that is real lateral thinking.... Probably wouldn't be appreciated by academia, however (ask a stupid question & ...)
it might be a bit of a challenge to get hold of enough helium for free... :roll:

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go to some where giving away free ballons to little kids. Or tell a compressed gas company you will put there small lightweight sticker on the blimp. Hell I got hundreds of yards of carbon fiber free when I was in school.

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flynfrog
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even better Idea make a hot air ballon ask some one for a light then set fire to some balsa like Chinese lantern Image

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burning the balsa wood is a clever idea.. the glue will improve the burning properties for sure..i wonder if all material must be used up ..:mrgreen: