Abu Dhabi GP 2010 - Yas Marina Circuit

[alelanza]

Regarding engine usage, do you guys agree or disagree with this view? It appears that engine usage may in some way favor Alonso, that is unless he actually cooked that quali engine at Bahrain.

http://www.formula1journal.com/2010/11/ ... ility.html

Apparently not:

Fernando has a practically unused engine for Abu.

I saw that, interesting. Now, wouldn't that engine suffer from whatever design failure their first batch of engines had? prior to the fia approved change?

No he does not, I'm assuming you are talking about the engine replaced before the race in Bahrain, and it blew up in china free practice.

"I am not worried," he said. "We lost an engine today, which is never a good thing, we would like to have all the engines perfectly OK. We knew that this engine was a little bit damaged after Bahrain, it was the one we replaced in Bahrain before the race so we are not too worried.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ap ... lure-china

[imightbewrong]

Regarding engine usage, do you guys agree or disagree with this view? It appears that engine usage may in some way favor Alonso, that is unless he actually cooked that quali engine at Bahrain.

http://www.formula1journal.com/2010/11/ ... ility.html

Hi Professor, you have unfortunately misinterpreted that chart. Engine #8 has not been used for 5 races. That chart just shows how many engines has been used up until an event, not what races they were actually. So basically it only shows at what event a new engine was first used. Engine #8 has only been used at Monza and Brazil and it will be used again this weekend.

[Mysticf1]

Vettel says that if he's P1 and Webber P2 in the race, "We know we are driving for the team" ie he'll move over.

[mariano.torre.gomez]

One interesting thing that almost no body is talking here , is about Felipe’s potential role in the next race.
Since I am living in Brasil and there are some news in the press I got some ideas.
First of all I shall say FM is not one my favourite drivers.
Having said that , I would say that we must keep an eye on him,
a)he got 9 engines ,I don’t know exactly How many Km they have ,but should be at least one ,with only few Km
b)in many news I have seeing FM’s quotes that he is prepared to help Alonso and the team.
c) I was commented by Brazilian TV on last Sunday that Alonso was dinning on Saturday at FM’s House
that means that tension after Germany GP is over(you don’t invite home some body that consider your enemy or you don’t like him)
D)Ferrari needs desperate to win Drivers Ch, they will do what it takes to reach that goal.
f)As Felipe don’t need to take much care about his personal result, he can push really hard and take the lead on qualy and race
g)Ferrari’s cars were almost as fast as the RB’s in Brasil qualy was a “casino” with rain and
Nico H. played a big role in Alonso 12 sec dif.
Massa was spoiled by the team and them by himself, but was driving aggressive(was at home , ok)
Massa is not so consistent as FA but could be almost as quick(normally I would say 2 tenth slower) so if he can hold the lead at least until his engine blows(if), that would help Alonso too much.
So I am quite sure that Ferrari’s strategy will include and strong FM’s role

[Professor]

Regarding engine usage, do you guys agree or disagree with this view? It appears that engine usage may in some way favor Alonso, that is unless he actually cooked that quali engine at Bahrain.

http://www.formula1journal.com/2010/11/ ... ility.html

Hi Professor, you have unfortunately misinterpreted that chart. Engine #8 has not been used for 5 races. That chart just shows how many engines has been used up until an event, not what races they were actually. So basically it only shows at what event a new engine was first used. Engine #8 has only been used at Monza and Brazil and it will be used again this weekend.

Thanks for that clarification, that makes much more sense.

[alelanza]

Mariano,

I think they would love being able to do that, but can they? as much as i used to admire the guy, FM has been nowhere this year. I'd be happily surprised to see him be useful for something this year, but sounds very unlikely. Also i doubt that they can actually make much of a difference by cranking up the engine, even this late in the year they all seem to be pretty close to delivering all the power they need when they need it.

On the ohter hand I feel Lewis may play a big role in this race, while it's very unlikely he'll get the WDC, he'll probably trouble the top 3 and be a factor in who gets the title. Or maybe not.... lol , just my two cents really.

[mach11]

Any pics from Yas Marina, Abu dhabi ahead of the final race...

[NormanBates]

...

if massa wins (not likely, I think, but it would be great for him, his confidence, and his position in the team), FA only needs 5th to get WDC, even if MW is second (with equal points, most wins gets the title, right?)

[Mr Alcatraz]

One interesting thing that almost no body is talking here , is about Felipe’s potential role in the next race.
Since I am living in Brasil and there are some news in the press I got some ideas.
First of all I shall say FM is not one my favourite drivers.
Having said that , I would say that we must keep an eye on him,
a)he got 9 engines ,I don’t know exactly How many Km they have ,but should be at least one ,with only few Km
b)in many news I have seeing FM’s quotes that he is prepared to help Alonso and the team.
c) I was commented by Brazilian TV on last Sunday that Alonso was dinning on Saturday at FM’s House
that means that tension after Germany GP is over(you don’t invite home some body that consider your enemy or you don’t like him)
D)Ferrari needs desperate to win Drivers Ch, they will do what it takes to reach that goal.
f)As Felipe don’t need to take much care about his personal result, he can push really hard and take the lead on qualy and race
g)Ferrari’s cars were almost as fast as the RB’s in Brasil qualy was a “casino” with rain and
Nico H. played a big role in Alonso 12 sec dif.
Massa was spoiled by the team and them by himself, but was driving aggressive(was at home , ok)
Massa is not so consistent as FA but could be almost as quick(normally I would say 2 tenth slower) so if he can hold the lead at least until his engine blows(if), that would help Alonso too much.
So I am quite sure that Ferrari’s strategy will include and strong FM’s role

Greetings Mariano,
If you read the entire thread you would realize Massa's has been mentioned.
It would be wonderful for him to extract the maximum (as Fred likes to say) out of the F10.
These guys are already risking engine damage with their blown exhaust setting in quali. The days of sacrificing your race strategy with quali strategy is not an option in the engine arena. Maybe Massa will find some speed for quali, but I'm not holding my breath. As for the boss, his role is very intriguing. He has a lively lump for this race and should go quite well. Then there is Button ,he may also be a factor.
I can't wait for this race. It will be epic

[zenithbeach]

Vettel says that if he's P1 and Webber P2 in the race, "We know we are driving for the team" ie he'll move over.

thats not surprising. however, i think hes gonna let him past in the last corner. just imagine if he lets webber past 1 lap before the end and then alonso's engine blows up

[mariano.torre.gomez]

i agree this race will be epic!!!!
lets see first show tomorrow adn try to get the initial clues

[mariano.torre.gomez]

sorry mates i am sure some body has an english version of today press conf.


Pregunta: (Steve Dawson - ESPN Deportes y estrella) Fernando, ¿esperas que Felipe se entrometa en tu lucha con los Red Bull para ayudarle a ganar o saldrá por su cuenta el próximo domingo?
Fernando Alonso: Creo que, lógicamente sería una gran noticia para nosotros. Si el coche es competitivo como en Alemania, Singapur, Monza, Bahrein,etc. Fueron circuitos donde los dos pilotos Ferrari fuimos capaces de estar los dos en el podio y si eso ocurriera sería de gran ayuda para mis opciones al título. Por supuesto que deseo un gran fin de semana para Felipe, incluso que ganara la carrera, sería un gran regalo para todos nosotros.

I got one

Q: (Steve Dawson - ESPN and Star Sports) Fernando, are you expecting Felipe to get amongst the Red Bull drivers and help you out or are you going to be on your own on Sunday?
FA: I think that will obviously be great news for us, if the car is competitive as it was on some occasions this year, in Germany for instance, Singapore, Monza, Bahrain. They were circuits where both Ferraris were able to be on the podium and if we are both on the podium, that will be a huge help for me, because we will take a lot of points. For sure, a perfect weekend for Felipe, even winning the race, will absolutely be a present for us.

[alelanza]

Good article on engine for this GP, don't think it's been posted:

...Turn 7 is very tight, which can lead to possible issues with engine push into the corner, as well as pick-up out of it. The engine is usually in full injection cut on the way into the corner, both to save fuel and reduce the amount of engine push, although the latter is a driver preference. A balance must be found to allow the engine speed to drop low enough in full cut to negotiate the turn without the risk of an engine stall. If the minimum car and engine speed thresholds for full cut are too high, the engine will fire-up mid corner, potentially upsetting the balance of the car. If they are too low, then there is the possibility of an engine stall...

In full:

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Abu- ... ctive.html

[mariano.torre.gomez]

well after reading CH's and SV's interview in F1.COM I would say that they are prepared to hand over MW if it is required
for ex. if FA is in 3 rd

[mx_tifoso]

Any pics from Yas Marina, Abu dhabi ahead of the final race...

Since you've asked on several occasions now, I would recommend that you visit the usual sights that have image sections and look for yourself;

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/series/1/formula-1/

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/?lang=en

http://motorsport.com/

From what I've seen so far there isn't anything good enough to post. They mainly consist of drivers walking around and other lame settings.