Ferrari 150° Italia

[horse]

I think the front view comparisons are the most revealing in terms of the changes from launch to launch. The front suspension, nosecone, and sidepods are really different.

I agree, there are significant changes to the front. Higher nose, smaller side pod entrances and much more frontal area to direct under the car. I would say they have considerably revised how the aero of the car works from this perspective.

Regarding blowing the diffuser (I guess this is discussed in detail elsewhere), blowing through the starter hole surely isn't a goer. You'd have to put a big hole in the exhaust to turn the starter motor and considering the holes position, it's not likely to do much anyway. I think there will be a debate about whether blowing over the top of it, or just exiting the exhausts cleaner out of the car is the best approach.

[ESPImperium]

Lok at the cooling from the engine cover, just donw from the little white strake of the new Ferarri corperate logo, the engine cover opens into what is effectivly a opening with the engine cover still continuing down the middle. That is simple and effective and elegant.

[Raptor22]

Q. Which are the most innovative characteristics of the F150?

NT: We've been working on different innovations for the car: some of ours and some new for Formula 1 in general. The rear suspension is really innovative, so is the rear wing system. But there are more novelties coming up regarding the configuration for the first race, which aren't in the car yet, for example something for the rear wing and the exhausts.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89115

Seems I spotted the same loop hole in the regs as Ferrari did.
Pretty sure this will be a feature on the RB7 as well.

[Blackout]

The RB5 and RB6 and F10 had that kind of opening.

Some details:



A future cooling opening a la Mp4 25 (yellow square) ?

[Raptor22]

I think the front view comparisons are the most revealing in terms of the changes from launch to launch. The front suspension, nosecone, and sidepods are really different.

I agree, there are significant changes to the front. Higher nose, smaller side pod entrances and much more frontal area to direct under the car. I would say they have considerably revised how the aero of the car works from this perspective.

Regarding blowing the diffuser (I guess this is discussed in detail elsewhere), blowing through the starter hole surely isn't a goer. You'd have to put a big hole in the exhaust to turn the starter motor and considering the holes position, it's not likely to do much anyway. I think there will be a debate about whether blowing over the top of it, or just exiting the exhausts cleaner out of the car is the best approach.

The lower section of the rear win end plates were they form theoutside boundary of the diffusor can also incorporate the exhaust exit. This will "blow" the diffusor.
Its a simple and effective loop hole in the regs and Iam sure many will have spotted it. If not, then they should hire me

[Raptor22]

The RB5 and RB6 and F10 had that kind of opening.

Some details:



A future cooling opening a la Mp4 25 (yellow square) ?

the position of that exhasut exit tell me they will extend the lower section of the wing end plate and route the exhaust into the diffusor via the end plate.

[timbo]

The lower section of the rear win end plates were they form theoutside boundary of the diffusor can also incorporate the exhaust exit. This will "blow" the diffusor.
Its a simple and effective loop hole in the regs and Iam sure many will have spotted it. If not, then they should hire me

Umm and have what 0.5 meter longer exhaust pipe? And all the heat-shielding shielding required?
Not sure it's very practical.

[horse]

The lower section of the rear win end plates were they form theoutside boundary of the diffusor can also incorporate the exhaust exit. This will "blow" the diffusor.

Any chance of a diagram? My understanding was that the diffuser is wider than the rear wing and thus it would be illegal to put entrances into it around the end plates even if they were extended down.

EDIT: Just read about the 50mm available on the outside of the diffusers. Is this the region you are talking about?

[myurr]

IMO this is not a "gadget" car. No radical solutions, but everything is very refined.
I think that packaging is very interesting on this car.

I guess their approach is to be as fast as possible out the gates with a refined but mostly known solution to make the early running whilst teams with a more radical approach try and get their cars to work. They'll then aim to bring performance to the car throughout the season to keep their challenge going.

[Raptor22]

The lower section of the rear win end plates were they form theoutside boundary of the diffusor can also incorporate the exhaust exit. This will "blow" the diffusor.
Its a simple and effective loop hole in the regs and Iam sure many will have spotted it. If not, then they should hire me

Umm and have what 0.5 meter longer exhaust pipe? And all the heat-shielding shielding required?
Not sure it's very practical.

there are carbon composites that are extremely heat resistant. Its a design problem.

Just waiting for a few more pics of the car then I'll draw what I think is possible.

[ESPImperium]

I belive this chassis is F150-287 resuming from the last chassis of last year whitch was the F10-286.

[timbo]

I belive this chassis is F150-287 resuming from the last chassis of last year whitch was the F10-286.

Fernando would first put this car to track today. Would he use the presentation chassis?
Maybe there's two chassis already?
I agree that 287 seems plausible.

[Raptor22]

that is standard Ferrari chassis serial number system

[Just_a_fan]

The rear end achieves RB6 levels of compactness whilst still using pushrod suspension. Look at how clear the air flow path is from the side pods / exhausts to the diffuser and beam wing. Indeed, the pushrod's acute forward angle gives more air path above the diffuser than a pullrod would have.

I think maximising the beam wing's interaction with the diffuser will be key this year and I wonder if the exhaust can be directed in such a way as to assist that interaction. Ferrari have done a lot of work in the area around the beam wing which suggests, to me at least, that they're looking to maximise the effect this device has on the diffuser.

The beam wing will generate a reasonable upwash which should help to drive the diffuser. If the exhaust can be used to increase the strength of this upwash (or keep the air exiting from the diffuser 'interested' in the upwash) then they should gain some d/f.

[afiq]

highest resolution i can find
a walk around video and also interviews from Domenicali, Marmorini, Tombazis and Aldo Costa

http://f1.f-e-n.net/index.php/url28076