Homologated engines?

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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What is Mad Max doing? Now he wants a three year freeze on engines. He's determined to transform F1 into a spec series like the current incarnation of Champ Cars, which all use the same chassis, engine, and tires. He's going entirely in the wrong direction IMHO. The technical regulations are getting so restrictive in this modern era that there is very little freedom for original ideas to ever see the light of day. It's all just so frustrating from my point of view.

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The technical regulations are getting so restrictive in this modern era that there is very little freedom for original ideas to ever see the light of day
No matter how hard Mad Max tries, to slow down F1 cars, formula 1 designers will always find other ways to make the cars faster and faster. Such is the progress of F1.

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I think Max has finally lost it. This may appear to be a cheaper solution but trust me, teams like Honda and Toyota will spend countless billions in secret preparation for when the three year ban lifts. Pointless, stupid, and poorly thought out by Max and his minions.

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This freeze will save the teams the money they are demanding from Bernie. Serves them right for trying to be greedy. DTM has very strict controls in place of its series and is still one of the best around. Lets just see what happens before everyone jumps to "Mad Max this and that" conclusions eh?

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my main issue is that if you build an engine and it has a flaw that does not show until racing, then your stuck with it for years, you might as well leave f1. also what if a new engine company wants to join f1? they will be able to bring in a new more advanced engine. might as well give them a fixed engine design.
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Does that mean, that the FIA would be the main engine supplier for 3 years, or that there will be strict and I mean strict restrictions on engine specs?
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Russ- I agree that the teams had no right to demand more revenue sharing from Bernie. But do you really think that a freeze on engines is an appropriate measure to implement in what is supposed to be a showcase of the world's best automotive engineering? If you want to curb spending, why not freeze the regulations for a few years so teams aren't constantly trying to play catch-up with regulations and spending vast sums redesigning everything every season?

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The proposal is to freeze the engine technology for three years. I must assume that what is currently being tried will be frozen, basic engine architecture will not be allowed to change. We already have a fixed formula of a 2.4 liter 90 degree V-8 with bore to bore dimensions fixed by regulations. Also the stroke has a minimum limit.

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Cus Bernie is so Poor?, I agree they might be being greedy but i think Bernie is just a greedy. its all about the money, its a product.
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M3 Lover- I read it on the ITV site, have a look:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=35353[/url]

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JB wrote:M3 Lover- I read it on the ITV site, have a look:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=35353[/url]

BAD LINK
lol internets

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Sorry about that- I didn't notice the [/url] tag at the end. Try this:

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=35353

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Pointless, stupid, and poorly thought out by Max and his minions
Hehe, so just like pretty much everyone of his previous ideas? :lol:
Silence is golden when you don't know a good answer.

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Those are moves of desperate man.

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I've got some questions.

1. A hypothetical situation:
Say a team develops a very bad engine (a la MP4-20). Does that mean that the team is stuck with it for the next three years?

2. Will this do anything to the 10-place engine penalty? I've read somewhere that FIA might penalize the teams changing their engine with 15kg of ballast. Did anybody hear anything about that?