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Maybe he comes back next year like Nicki Lauda and wins the WDC.
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Robert Kubica has today informed Lotus Renault GP that he will not be ready for the start of the 2012 season, despite having started an intensive training programme. The Pole is still recovering from his really crash earlier this year and thereby gives the green light to LRGP to select its drivers for the 2012 campaign.
These are probably the same dudes who castigated Webber for cycling. Dreaming about how such great, obedient company men they would be if they were in F1...JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: Philosophy clap trap is all very well with hindsight. You could also come up with counter philosphy clap trap like "follow that which fills your heart" or various others to justify Kubica's decision for his love of rallying.
Kubica is a sane man, he knows the risks. He more than anyone will know the risks...
Maybe instead of judging the man and what he loves doing, you could empathise with the mans unfortunate plight?
It comes across as a bit distasteful....
I don't have 3D vision since I was 5 years old. I'm 28 now and I still drive cars, motorbikes, play football, and rugby. Some doctors can't believe it but they think my brain has taught itself to judge visual depth nevertheless. So strange things can happen. One must work hard to overcome such hurdles and not give up hope.mith wrote:I also think, that disallowing this guys do their passion would be similar to cutting their wings. You just can't kill their spirit if you want them to compete on the very edge of what's possible.
There is a handball player, Karol Bielecki, who has lost his eye during the sparing match in an unfortunate accident. At first he announced he's ending his career. You know, without 3D vision it's pretty hard to estimate ball's movement. But he started to train again and after some time in the first official match after the accident he shone like nothing has happened. Now he's back to representation and playing on top again. I know Kubica won't be able to drive F1 car with disabled hand, but he's the man with strong will, so he will do everything possible to recover fully and get back into F1 cockpit.
You're even worse than me for pointing that out.JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: Care to mention which hand just so as to plumb the depths a bit further ringo?
If you ever have an accident, which is accidental by nature, do you beat yourself up?
I never even considered that.
Everything you've said in this thread has been mostly negative, even in the post you wished Robert a recovery you wrote his racing career off entirely.segedunum wrote:I make it a point not to feed trolls these days, but no I definitely wouldn't be saying the opposite if it was Vettel or Webber so don't presume to tell me what I would say based on your own idiotic and petty ideas of driver and team allegiances that have destroyed this place as a forum.Diesel wrote:If this was Vettel/Webber you would be saying the exact opposite and that the media is dramatising it.
All you do is stomp around the forum trolling threads....
What you believe I think won't make this accident any less serious no matter who was in the car.
Don't be so suprised people hate you around here. In a situation like this where peoples emotions are running high, they naturally wan't to hope for the best. Then you walk in and rub salt all in the wounds.segedunum wrote:Let's all come to a right understanding. This is more serious than anyone has let on. Kubica was basically fighting for his life when they got him from the car. His Formula 1 career is over.
Let's all hope and pray that he can lead a normal, happy life with or without Formula 1. His career is simply not important right now. His life is.
You don't actually need two eyes to have the 3d-vision, the brain interpreters the field of view and can quite effectively determine what's close and what isn't. Try closing one eye, its not like you're looking at a 2d image on your computer.mith wrote: There is a handball player, Karol Bielecki, who has lost his eye during the sparing match in an unfortunate accident. At first he announced he's ending his career. You know, without 3D vision it's pretty hard to estimate ball's movement. But he started to train again and after some time in the first official match after the accident he shone like nothing has happened. Now he's back to representation and playing on top again. I know Kubica won't be able to drive F1 car with disabled hand, but he's the man with strong will, so he will do everything possible to recover fully and get back into F1 cockpit.
Very "european". Stay home, it's safer there. I'll better turn off my PC, cause the company did not actually trained me to deal with electricity. That prevent-it movie reminds me of Darwin's prize.ringo wrote: Things are preventable, that's all i am saying.
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Co-driver explains Kubica crash
Robert Kubica's co-driver, Jakub Gerber, has explained how their accident on Sunday's Ronde di Andora rally happened.
The Renault F1 driver remains in intensive care in hospital in Italy and is due to undergo a second surgery on serious hand and arm injuries and a broken right leg.
Gerber explained how their Skoda Fabia was penetrated by a section of barrier after Kubica slid wide into a right-hander.
"We knew the surface was slippery because of the humidity and we were ready," Gerber told Gazzetta dello Sport. "After skidding, the car leaned against the guard rail and pushed it outwards. Then it crashed against the following guard rail.
"The guard rail pierced through the car and went all the way through it. I immediately saw it was serious, he also had a bad bruise under his eye after hitting the steering wheel. Robert passed out and I exited through the window because the door was stuck.
"The ambulance arrived immediately and then came the firemen. They took over half an hour to pull him out. The first crew didn't have the shears so they had to wait for another crew. Then the helicopter couldn't land in that spot, so Robert had to be moved and more time was lost."
Gerber was critical of the section of road that had a gap between two sections of barrier, leaving the end of the second exposed. And he also called for increased protection around the cockpit of rally cars.
"That opening [between the two sections of barrier] makes no sense," he said. "But, most of all, we shouldn't have cars with so little protection at the front. It's not the first time a crash like this happens - the Federation should think of something to protect the cockpit."
When asked whether he thought the accident was caused by a car failure or a mistake by Kubica, Gerber replied: "In a competition you try to go as quickly as possible. Robert is the type of person that thinks hard, always looks a step ahead, he's precise, fast and clean. A complete driver."
Mauro Moreno, who was the driver on the scene running one minute behind Kubica, gave his account.
"It was a horrifying view. I called him by name a couple of times, but he didn't reply," he told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"The steel blade was coming out of the hatchback. His co-driver signalled to me he had no problems so I asked Robert if he was ok too. But that was useless because he was in a state of semi-unconsciousness and he wouldn't talk."
Also, you can drive a Formula 1 car with one hand, the f-duct proved thatsink wrote:You don't actually need two eyes to have the 3d-vision, the brain interpreters the field of view and can quite effectively determine what's close and what isn't. Try closing one eye, its not like you're looking at a 2d image on your computer.mith wrote: There is a handball player, Karol Bielecki, who has lost his eye during the sparing match in an unfortunate accident. At first he announced he's ending his career. You know, without 3D vision it's pretty hard to estimate ball's movement. But he started to train again and after some time in the first official match after the accident he shone like nothing has happened. Now he's back to representation and playing on top again. I know Kubica won't be able to drive F1 car with disabled hand, but he's the man with strong will, so he will do everything possible to recover fully and get back into F1 cockpit.
Come on, you wouldn't partake in an activity which led to certain death. I think we all want to live even if we do like to flirt with danger.reikorp wrote:Things are preventable, but odds are clear: in 120 years period you have 0% chance to survive.
I'm a geomatics student, and I can confirm that. This has been discussed at length in our photogrammetry class plenty of times. However, it should be noted that the previous experiences of the brain in 3d vision (2 eyes) is what makes it possible for one-eyed depth perception (for a person who's no longer able to make use of both eyes). If we're talking about a person born with one eye functioning only, then depth perception is not possible (then again we're not medical professionals, but this was the conclusion we had reached).sink wrote: You don't actually need two eyes to have the 3d-vision, the brain interpreters the field of view and can quite effectively determine what's close and what isn't. Try closing one eye, its not like you're looking at a 2d image on your computer.