Ferrari sued by Ford

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Pierce89 wrote:
Enrage wrote:The simple fact is that Ford has a legal duty to protect their trademark. If they don't, they may lose rights to protect it in the future. It really is that simple, and it's not because Americans are "half-wits" (we aren't), or that we are overly-litigious (we are), it's simply Ford's corporate lawyers doing their job to ensure the company's ability to sue if, for instance, Chevrolet came out with an F-150 truck.
The F-150 is a commercially available TRUCK. The f150 is a F1 car. There's no competition between the two. I think Ford is wasting EVERYONE'S time and money. Ford WOULD NOT lose their trademark had they let this slide.
When you own an IP like that, you need to protect it. Even though the Ferrari is not a truck, and everybody knows that, the two names do overlap, and on the internet, it will make a difference. If the Ferrari wins the WDC, and someone wants pictures of a ford truck, they might not understand why they get all these racing car pictures. There is no good for Ford in any way that can come out of Ferrari sharing the name.

Whether you think it is frivolous or not, it all comes down to Ford NEEDING to sue Ferrari, as they ignored more polite requests to change the name in the early going.

When a giant car company says you are using their name, best answer them at the very least.
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I am also shocked that Ford has not yet taken legal action against these guys:

http://www.socal.co.uk/Heating/Portable ... er/3/16259

Or these:

http://www.walkerspointmarina.com/new_v ... veh=199191

:roll:
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Pierce89 wrote:The F-150 is a commercially available TRUCK. The f150 is a F1 car. There's no competition between the two.
You might have a point if the F-150 was some graphics card for a computer or something similar, i.e. something that doesn't have to do with automobiles. But Ferrari is a car manufacturer and they were trying to use the name F150.
Pierce89 wrote:Ford WOULD NOT lose their trademark had they let this slide.
Says who? You? Because not protecting their trademark from another use by another CAR COMPANY, not a heater or outboard motor, a CAR COMPANY could easily mean they lose their rights to the trademark.

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As some people don't seem to grasp this, I'll post this link again: http://www.semplefraser.co.uk/a/FerrariLimo

This is an example of Ferrari suing a guy who turned his legitimately bought Ferrari into a limo in order to force him to remove all Ferrari branding. Sure sounds frivolous to me, but again the reason given is that if they don't then they lose legitimacy over their trademark should someone else come along and do something similar.

I wish the US legal system was different, but it's incredibly naive to blame Ford in this instance. They had to defend their trademark, and if anything the stupid party in this instance was Ferrari for not responding earlier forcing Ford to take the matter legal.

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Ford must defend their brand name, trademarks and image where it counts to us, on the race track! Because their “Goodwill “ doesn’t mean anything to us, there is still a vacant slot on the grid! Money might be tight but we have teams like HRT F1 running on 45 million Euro’s a season

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Quite funny really in a if I don't laugh I'll cry kind of way.

Seriously, if someone can't differencite between a Ferrari F150 F1 racing car and a Ford F150 cheap and nasty pick-up, then they really shouldn't be in a position to by such a vehicle, hold a license or even be allowed out in public by themselves.

The world really is going mad! #-o

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andrew, and I guess it must be really difficult for someone to tell the difference between a Ferrari and a stretched limo Ferrari, and yet Ferrari still felt the need to sue...

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Quite a bit different but understandable. If it was reported that Ferrari had designed and built a limo it would probably be believable.

The liklihood of a resonably minded intelligent person not being able to tell the difference between a Ferrari F15 and a Ford F150 is minimal. If anything, I think Ford are being extremely petty and frivolous with this.

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I guess the degree of Ford's pettiness is proportional to the degree of Ferrari fan-ness of the forum reader... :wink: :lol:
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andrew wrote:The liklihood of a resonably minded intelligent person not being able to tell the difference between a Ferrari F15 and a Ford F150 is minimal.
Unfortunately that is not the way trademark law works in the US. What was petty was Ferrari's failure to respond to Fords original request, forcing them to take legal action. This could have been settled amicably without that action had Ferrari just showed willing.

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Just_a_fan wrote:I guess the degree of Ford's pettiness is proportional to the degree of Ferrari fan-ness of the forum reader... :wink: :lol:
Hate to kill your theory but I am far from a Ferrari fan.

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"F150 wins F1 world champoinship" Headline....i bet 80% of americans think of the truck first before they do the F1 car. And its in this instance i think ford have grounds for legal action. Its not a matter of the name as such but also the meaning and its branding. I hear hoover...and think of a vacume cleaner. Pepsi and think of cola...etc etc.
Lets face it if they called it the "durex" in honor of there Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, I know of a certain latex manufacturer claiming for damages :-)

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Ford must defend their brand name, trademarks and image where it counts to us, on the race track! Because their “Goodwill “ doesn’t mean anything to us, there is still a vacant slot on the grid! Money might be tight but we have teams like HRT F1 running on 45 million Euro’s a season

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This is common and to be expected. Bertta the firearms company sued Chevy over the Berreta car when there could never have been any confusion.
Ford has used the F-150 name for like 50 years and darn well owns it.
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strad wrote:
Ford has used the F-150 name for like 50 years and darn well owns it.
Only in the markets in which they have been selling the F-150 though. If they've never sold them in e.g. Mongolia (no idea if they do or don't sell them there of course) then anyone else getting in there first gets the dibs. Although doubtless the US courts would try to say otherwise...
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