Ferrari 150° Italia

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That's a gorgeous looking car. Any ideas on what the block on the front wing on the picture above could be?
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That's not the newest Front Wing I don't think. The newest one IIRC was slightly feathered towards the inside?
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have they even tested the all new 2011 front wing?

and their front wing look soooo simple compared to others...
Do you guys think there is loads of room for improving it or they managed to max out the performance with this simplicity...?
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Goran2812 wrote:have they even tested the all new 2011 front wing?

and their front wing look soooo simple compared to others...
Do you guys think there is loads of room for improving it or they managed to max out the performance with this simplicity...?
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Goran2812 wrote:have they even tested the all new 2011 front wing?

and their front wing look soooo simple compared to others...
Do you guys think there is loads of room for improving it or they managed to max out the performance with this simplicity...?
Sometimes the simpler it is, the better it is.
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“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.” - Leonardo da Vinci

soo... OTT

back to the car now, those new pylons remind me of renault and STR's nose extensions.

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Yeah their front wing doesn't have near the apparent trickery in the winglets area the other teams employ. The upper 3rd element appears to be the only noticeable change from the previous wing on this new unit. The mini turning vane is a bit taller at the edge and that's about it. Then again, RB's is not really that different either.

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Shows a profile view of all the cars, from this picture it is clear that the leading edge of the RBR front wing is considerably lower than its trailing edge, + compared to the rest of the cars (noted some are indeed static shots of the car) it seems that the trick to the "flex" comes from the pylons as much as it does from the wing itself, which makes me wonder why Ferrari have gone the route they have with their new pylons.

Maybe they aren't chasing front wing flex for performance and focusing on maximising the diffuser?
Or maybe the Ferrari COP (centre of pressure) when running at speed is too far forward?
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if you look at this picture and the one posted by zgred above the point at where the wing attaches to the support pilon is still quite small, the wing isnt attached along the whole length of the pilon.

So if they did want it to flex and deform they could still have it flex and deform about those small joining points.

in zgreds post you can see that where the wing assembly is attached is the same regardless of the usual pilon or the extended pilon. makes sense from the point of interchangebility of the parts too, so old front wing planes can be bolted onto the new nose.
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Reventon
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anyone got a link to the giant duplicate picture Giblet edited out ?
I've been looking for it for about an hour ! #-o

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747heavy
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just wondering if Ferrari´s FW pillars follow the way of thinking behind this.
PS: I know, that it is on the opposite side of the nose cone.
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Nope, those pillars are used because of Yaw, on the underside you want to turn the air around the sidepods, you do not want to straighten them.

The Ferrari idea is similair as the nose skirts on for example the renault and STR last year, working as a small diffuser aiding some downforce
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