Renault brake ducts

Here are our CFD links and discussions about aerodynamics, suspension, driver safety and tyres. Please stick to F1 on this forum.
manchild
manchild
12
Joined: 03 Jun 2005, 10:54

Renault brake ducts

Post

Just noticed this small additional duct (close to lower wishbone)

Image
Last edited by manchild on 29 Mar 2006, 19:01, edited 1 time in total.

Mikey_s
Mikey_s
8
Joined: 21 Dec 2005, 11:06

Post

ooooh yes, very well spotted Manchild - note to self; must check what the regs say about brake ducts...
Mike

Mikey_s
Mikey_s
8
Joined: 21 Dec 2005, 11:06

Post

Here we are; anyone got a ruler?

11.4 Air ducts :
Air ducts around the front and rear brakes will be considered part of the braking system and shall not
protrude beyond :
- a plane parallel to the ground situated at a distance of 160mm above the horizontal centre line of the
wheel ;
- a plane parallel to the ground situated at a distance of 160mm below the horizontal centre line of the
wheel ;
- a vertical plane parallel to the inner face of the wheel rim and displaced from it by 120mm toward the
centre line of the car.
Furthermore, when viewed from the side the ducts must not protrude forwards beyond the periphery of the
tyre or backwards beyond the wheel rim.
Mike

User avatar
joseff
11
Joined: 24 Sep 2002, 11:53

Post

- a vertical plane parallel to the inner face of the wheel rim and displaced from it by 120mm toward the
centre line of the car.
Another grey area. How is the inner face of the wheel rim = vertical? A plane can be parralel to the rim face (which then displaces with wheel travel) or stationary and vertical, and thus not affected by camber or steering (front wheel) or toe changes.

Of course, according to my 2nd interpretation, front wheel steering is also illegal :P

mx_tifoso
mx_tifoso
0
Joined: 30 Nov 2006, 05:01
Location: North America

Re: Renault brake ducts

Post

What are the aero or cooling differences between round, squarish, and vertical rectangular brake ducts??

Using common sense it's known that with either shape you can get the same dimensions/area but why is the geometrical design important?

Renault have been using the vertical rectangular design:
Image

Ferrari squarish version:
Image

HRT semi-circular:
Image
Forum guide: read before posting

"You do it, then it's done." - Kimi Räikkönen

Por las buenas soy amigo, por las malas soy campeón.

User avatar
raymondu999
54
Joined: 04 Feb 2010, 07:31

Re: Renault brake ducts

Post

I think to a certain extent it's used as a flow conditioner nowadays, to condition and direct the flow to the diffuser in a way that suits their aero package...
失败者找理由,成功者找方法

riff_raff
riff_raff
132
Joined: 24 Dec 2004, 10:18

Re: Renault brake ducts

Post

The cooling flow through the "brake" duct is very important. Besides cooling the brake rotor, that airflow must also provide cooling for the caliper and brake fluid within, cooling for the wheel bearings, and prevent excessive heat transfer into the wheel and tire. Since the duct must turn sharply 90 degrees and direct the airflow in many different directions, it is usually rather inefficient by nature. So the actual inlet geometry profile is likely not too critical, as long as it achieves the necessary mass airflow. The sharp turn will kill the duct flow efficiency, so having a super efficient inlet shape probably doesn't help much. The best choice for brake duct inlet shape then becomes the one that produces the least wake flow disturbances.
"Q: How do you make a small fortune in racing?
A: Start with a large one!"