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Owen.C93 wrote:McLaren were 4kph quicker through the speed trap, Malaysia has much longer straights which can only help. If Red-Bull don't have KERS it could be great in the race.
Bit of an off-shoot, but Red Bull were around 20 kph faster than McLaren through the highest corners on the circuit - 11 and 12 - and they carried that speed into the next straight. That's.....a lot, and a little more relevant to Sepang than Melbourne. They've still got a lot of aerodynamic development to do with this car.

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i thought you could only expose so much of the exhaust outside of the bodywork?

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segedunum wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:McLaren were 4kph quicker through the speed trap, Malaysia has much longer straights which can only help. If Red-Bull don't have KERS it could be great in the race.
Bit of an off-shoot, but Red Bull were around 20 kph faster than McLaren through the highest corners on the circuit - 11 and 12 -
Really? Wow.
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segedunum wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:McLaren were 4kph quicker through the speed trap, Malaysia has much longer straights which can only help. If Red-Bull don't have KERS it could be great in the race.
Bit of an off-shoot, but Red Bull were around 20 kph faster than McLaren through the highest corners on the circuit - 11 and 12 - and they carried that speed into the next straight. That's.....a lot, and a little more relevant to Sepang than Melbourne. They've still got a lot of aerodynamic development to do with this car.
Where did that information come from? I've not seen it anywhere other than on this forum...

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From seg's imagination most likely... :wink:
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segedunum wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:McLaren were 4kph quicker through the speed trap, Malaysia has much longer straights which can only help. If Red-Bull don't have KERS it could be great in the race.
Bit of an off-shoot, but Red Bull were around 20 kph faster than McLaren through the highest corners on the circuit - 11 and 12 - and they carried that speed into the next straight. That's.....a lot, and a little more relevant to Sepang than Melbourne. They've still got a lot of aerodynamic development to do with this car.
And yet the McLaren's were still 4kph faster through the speed traps...those Red Bull are really slow in a straight line without KERS to boost them aren't they..!! :wink:
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It was somewhere between 15 and 20 kph difference on average, plus or minus, when Vettel was on his qualifying lap or fast laps during the race between him and the McLarens. If you have recordings of the race and qualifying they have a nice on-screen indicator now that you can pause at various points and compare. Even allowing for some significant error margin in that speedometer it's fairly eye opening. Someone else did an analysis of it that I'll have to dig out and post elsewhere.

In terms of the MP4-26, this thread and the car I think it's fair to say they need to burn even more midnight oil getting usable downforce on to the car. People talk about the mythical 'race pace', but it's meaningless when the opposition blasts a few laps in, builds up a cushion and then turns everything down for the rest of the race as happens these days. No one finishes a minute down the road in races now.

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segedunum wrote:It was somewhere between 15 and 20 kph difference on average, plus or minus, when Vettel was on his qualifying lap or fast laps during the race between him and the McLarens. If you have recordings of the race and qualifying they have a nice on-screen indicator now that you can pause at various points and compare. Even allowing for some significant error margin in that speedometer it's fairly eye opening. Someone else did an analysis of it that I'll have to dig out and post elsewhere.

In terms of the MP4-26, this thread and the car I think it's fair to say they need to burn even more midnight oil getting usable downforce on to the car. People talk about the mythical 'race pace', but it's meaningless when the opposition blasts a few laps in, builds up a cushion and then turns everything down for the rest of the race as happens these days. No one finishes a minute down the road in races now.

Here we go again........ :twisted:

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segedunum wrote:It was somewhere between 15 and 20 kph difference on average, plus or minus, when Vettel was on his qualifying lap or fast laps during the race between him and the McLarens. If you have recordings of the race and qualifying they have a nice on-screen indicator now that you can pause at various points and compare. Even allowing for some significant error margin in that speedometer it's fairly eye opening. Someone else did an analysis of it that I'll have to dig out and post elsewhere.

In terms of the MP4-26, this thread and the car I think it's fair to say they need to burn even more midnight oil getting usable downforce on to the car. People talk about the mythical 'race pace', but it's meaningless when the opposition blasts a few laps in, builds up a cushion and then turns everything down for the rest of the race as happens these days. No one finishes a minute down the road in races now.
Maybe you could post screenshots mate?
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i cant seem to find it, might have been a comment made on tv, but Seb was 14 kph quicker through the chicane than Lewis.
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14, 20. By next week it will be 35.

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Nah. Next week it'll stay 20. But people will say it was in m/s :P
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Can they change the beam wing design / rear crash structure? To me that looks like one thing they can improve a lot.

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McLaren's beam wing is effectively 10-20% smaller because its bonded to the crash structure.

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No, the rear crash structure have been homologated since the crash test
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