Jersey Tom and Sayshina wrote:... Yatta yatta yatta.
I, for one, am happy with the current arrangement, where some racers give us general information about tyre behaviour and some technicians and engineers give us ideas. In the middle, as always, a few technical followers throw me a bone or two that includes numbers.
I think the idea in this kind of discussions, and in this forum, is not for one person to be right or another to be wrong, but to establish some principles. Some people will get them, other won't.
I guess most of you already knew many of the things I've learned here during the last six years, but for me, things like:
- learning more or less precisely what a stiff angle is
- how do a tyre behave under load and what are the structural principles of it working\
- what are Pacejka curves
- how can you learn which are the approximate spring constants for tyres
- what are the different modes of wear
- how can you guess drag
- how do you choose an apex
- how can you get a better measure of temperature
- what part of bumps is adsorbed by tyres and what by the rest of suspension
- how the angles of suspension work
- what is Ackerman steering
- how to manage a scrub angle
and many more have been very inspiring, enlightening and entertaining.
For all that, thanks.
I know it is hard to find you are in error or worse yet, not be totally convinced of your errors or how to evaluate mistakes of others.
As long as you give humility some leeway, as long as you point out what others can learn when opportunities arise, you two will keep me happy.
So, please, do not concentrate on what could have been misunderstood by others or on what others definitely will not understand until they race like you've done or done the studies and lab tests you've done. Most of us will never race at your level nor will develop the things you've developed, but we are enjoying your "technical friendship and help".
Now, please, concentrate on the issue at hand. How good are Pirelli tyres and are they really not consistent? Will it help the brand or not?
Those are quite general questions, I like to talk about them, I'll make mistakes talking and at least, I am not alone in this world having to learn all the subtleties by myself. I can count on you, can I?
I apologize if this sounds too "moderator-ish", my intention is for everybody to feel better after they come and go.
I need for Strad to explain what's the funny part of Melbourne weather, I did not get it.
Take it for what its worth. Doesn't bother me if anyone believes it, questions it, or says its BS. The main point of this, is that I don't think I've EVER seen a single instance of something being clear cut, absolutely, globally better to go in one direction. E.g.: "Shorter sidewall is better for handling!" (I can think of instances where it's God-awful, particularly with very wide tires and poor kinematics - Corvette). Or, "pull rod is always the best solution, no reason to ever run a push rod!". Or, "adding air pressure makes tires more responsive," or "lowering air pressure gives more grip." Yatta yatta yatta.
