Malaysian GP 2011 - Sepang

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manchild wrote:
andrew wrote:The Priellis are a joke.
Write a complaint to Mad Max who forced out Michelin from F1 because he insisted on a single tyre supplier. We could have had battle of Michelin, Brigdestone, Goodyear and Pirelli but that wouldn't be uniformed as certain people like it to be (even when they are being spanked).
:mrgreen: I see what you did there ^.^

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If you did really deeply into it, everything is artificial, as soon as you start putting rules in place.

I don't think the artificiality of the racing is out of hand here. The DRS is a boost but it ain't a sure fire passing device. The tyres wear out, but they've also done so in the past and it's the same with everybody. We now have unpredictable racing without it being at all random either. That is a good thing.

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Bad judgment by Fred, after his DRS failed he got super aggressive. Too bad but it was a good dice up to that point.
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Fastest lap - Mark Webber with onboard KERS that he wasn't using since it was malfunctioning???

BTW, Alonso and Hamilton were summoned by stewards regarding their incident, so don't take provisional results for granted.

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Dragonfly wrote:As I said earlier the car is below the expectations. Now I can confirm that it's even lower.
Fighting with Force Indias and dominated by Sauber.
Not really, it's just that nowdays Kobayashi is better driver than Schumacher.

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At least he was ahead of Rosberg.

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andrew wrote:I'm struggling to understand the Alonso/Hamilton coming together.

The speed differeince between the 2 seemed huge, almost like a brake test. Not saying that is what happened but that is the only thing I can think of to compare the speed difference with. Was Alonso just far too eager with usuing his KERS?
Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton are now speaking to Malaysian Grand Prix stewards following their Malaysian Grand Prix collision on Sunday afternoon.

The incident occurred on Lap 46 as the Ferrari attacked the McLaren for third position. However, although the Englishman did not change line, the Spaniard was caught out by the difference in speed.

After losing his left-front wing endfence against Hamilton’s right-rear wheel, Alonso was forced to pit and dropped to an eventual sixth place
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2570 ... -stewards/

Not much to discuss IMO. I think Fred just misjudged his closing speed and maybe got sucked in a little by the slipstream.
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Is it just me, or was there more to Hamilton's tyre woes. Even after his third stop for the second set of hard tyres, Webber was harassing him like crazy on much older tyres and Button just pulled away.

Regarding the entertainment factor, I have to say this was pretty good but I have seem more exciting races in the rain. The DRS didn't do as much for overtaking as compared to what the tyres offered. Looking at Webber's strategy though and Alonso's strategy in Oz, it seems that it might be better to go flat our and do the extra stops as opposed to try and manage the tyres. Webber could have easily finished in the podium had his KERS worked.

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andrew wrote:At least he was ahead of Rosberg.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

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Tazio wrote:Not much to discuss IMO. I think Fred just misjudged his closing speed and maybe got sucked in a little by the slipstream.
That's what I thought had happened and it was and open and shut case. But I just heard that Alonso is saying there was fault on both parts which I don't really see where he is coming from with that.

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Tazio wrote:
andrew wrote:I'm struggling to understand the Alonso/Hamilton coming together.

The speed differeince between the 2 seemed huge, almost like a brake test. Not saying that is what happened but that is the only thing I can think of to compare the speed difference with. Was Alonso just far too eager with usuing his KERS?
Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton are now speaking to Malaysian Grand Prix stewards following their Malaysian Grand Prix collision on Sunday afternoon.
Not much to discuss IMO. I think Fred just misjudged his closing speed and maybe got sucked in a little by the slipstream.
DC mentioned understeer becoming an issue for Fred due to the proximity of the two cars are they exited the right hander.
Add to that slipstream & faster tyres, and it all seems a plausible excuse.. (but still amateurish).

The only thing that could save Fred the indignity of such a silly mistake would be Lewis' telemetry.
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andrew wrote:
Tazio wrote:Not much to discuss IMO. I think Fred just misjudged his closing speed and maybe got sucked in a little by the slipstream.
That's what I thought had happened and it was and open and shut case. But I just heard that Alonso is saying there was fault on both parts which I don't really see where he is coming from with that.
Its alonso talking, doesnt that explain it fully?

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Leaving the wildlife out of it, the simple fact is Merc have to get their act together as they are just a shambles. There is no other word to describe them.

It is a real shame from the drivers as both have the ability to win races and challenge for championships.

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^ Fair point.

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Ferrari and its drivers need to be reminded they are not a rookie team. Silly mistakes after silly decisions lost them valuable points, the kind of which they seem to regret when they get to the last race of a season. It's races like this one where you lose championships folks, not the last corner in Brazil or a strategy gone wrong in Abu Dhabi..

Poor pit stops, and maybe a bit too late as well, a rookie mistake by Mr 2xWDC (though he was apparently caught out by the "former boss" being slower than an HRT out of turn 2), and, for the love of God, someone please tell Massa that defending into turn 4 at Sepang is easier done by sticking to the inside: counting the number of places he's lost over the years in that exact same turn doing the exact same thing one runs out of fingers, toes and teeth...

Ever so glad to see Heidfeld on the podium, here's hoping for a race victory! =D>

Mr Kobayashi: respect!

Webber: don't know what's wrong with him, but he better get it sorted out quick, or we'll see Vettel make it 2 WDC in a row by September..

Man of the race: Vettel of course. Like him or not, he delivered again. Can't wait to see him having to fight people on the track for a change..

Quote of the race?
RB Team Radio to Vettel: “Do NOT use KERS!!!”
My girlfriend (not even watching the race): “Was he swearing at him???”
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