Favourite, most interesting f1 car

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Just_a_fan wrote: What F1 cars should be - the most technically advanced race cars in the world.
Are you saying that the current F1 cars are not the most technically advanced race cars in the world?

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Its not my #1 favourite but its definately interesting and raised a couple of eyebrows as well.

Brabham BT46B

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Robbobnob wrote:Image

hard to believe this has been left out, the Ferrari's dont have anything on the pace of this machine

Proved Turbos were the ---
Sorry to steal your thunder Rob, but the McLaren in the picture is a normally aspirated one...(MP4-5 of 1989)

Let's give its predecessor a place in this thread:

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MP4-4 of 1988 won 15 of 16 races.

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What about this one?

Double chassis Lotus 88:

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Damn disgrace it never raced.

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Tumbarello wrote:
Just_a_fan wrote: What F1 cars should be - the most technically advanced race cars in the world.
Are you saying that the current F1 cars are not the most technically advanced race cars in the world?
Yes. The FW14B had active suspension, ABS, TC, semi-auto gearbox annd the best aero package in the field at the time.

Look at this image and I think you can see similarities with Newey's current best-in-field particularly the back end treatment:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tumbarello wrote:
Just_a_fan wrote: What F1 cars should be - the most technically advanced race cars in the world.
Are you saying that the current F1 cars are not the most technically advanced race cars in the world?
Yes. The FW14B had active suspension, ABS, TC, semi-auto gearbox annd the best aero package in the field at the time.
The cars back then were a little too remote controlled for my taste. Technical marvels as they were, but I'd rather have the drivers worry about wheelspin, locking brakes and so on.

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@sebp

Ironically the FW14B didn't have power steering so it was a very physical car to drive. Williams had to develop PAS for the FW15 so that Prost could drive it (perhaps the FW15 is the more advanced then...?)

There's no way the FW14B was a "remote controlled" car. It was a very physical racer's car. Today's machines are much more likely to be driver friendly than 20 years ago because the teams use clever engine electronics to help the driver with every facet of the process of cornering quickly.

From http://www.classicandperformancecar.com ... fw14b.html
The FW14B was a beast of a car. Adrian Newey, in an interview with this author in 2007, recalled how the active suspension destroyed Patrese’s confidence: 'It was a very physical car to drive because it had enormous downforce and big steering loads. And it didn’t give much feedback – in fact, on corner entry it moved around quite a lot, like a Citroen 2CV, and wasn’t confidence-inspiring. If you kept your foot in it would go round, but Riccardo couldn’t bring himself to do that – Nigel, with his enormous self-belief and car control, could.'
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My favourites:

- 1958 Cooper Climax, first mid-engine car to win a GP
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- The double chassis lotus: not the best looking thing, but such a smart out-of-the-box thing!

- Lotus 25: first car with monocoque construction (Aluminium back then of course)
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Just_a_fan wrote:@sebp

Ironically the FW14B didn't have power steering so it was a very physical car to drive. Williams had to develop PAS for the FW15 so that Prost could drive it (perhaps the FW15 is the more advanced then...?)

There's no way the FW14B was a "remote controlled" car. It was a very physical racer's car. Today's machines are much more likely to be driver friendly than 20 years ago because the teams use clever engine electronics to help the driver with every facet of the process of cornering quickly.
I was referring to the data sent to the car from the pits to adjust ride height, brake balance, etc. For me that is to some extent remote control.

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How about a car which looks very strange?
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N12ck wrote:How about a car which looks very strange?
Here you go:

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Look at the side pods! McLaren copying another team again!! :lol:

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Tyrrell P34

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Wasn't that the only 4WD attempt at an F1 car?
Felipe Baby!

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Sebp what type is that?
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