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Despite all on-track action going on during this Turkish GP, Sebastian Vettel didn't have to car too much as he kept ahead of everyone all the way through the race. Mark Webber completed a perfect race for Red Bull while Fernando Alonso secured the first podium for Ferrari this season.
After China. Absolute possibility. Canada was far more of a risk due to the nature of the aggregate on the track. It tore both compounds to shreds, such that the hard compound did not lost much longer than the softs.raymondu999 wrote:After Canada 2010? I seriously doubt it/
Indeed, this is exactly why I'm so confused by people claiming Webber's drive was amazing – starting on hards with a bunch of softs ready to use once you're in clear air is an entirely viable race strategy with the new tyres.univex wrote:After China. Absolute possibility. Canada was far more of a risk due to the nature of the aggregate on the track. It tore both compounds to shreds, such that the hard compound did not lost much longer than the softs.raymondu999 wrote:After Canada 2010? I seriously doubt it/
This race is about having as many soft tyres saved for the race as possible. Monaco is the exception where you can't pass at all.
No, his strategy worked because he *didn't have to* overtake said cars – the hard tyres were sufficiently slower that he was running slower than the mid field cars – note that he lost time to the pack during his first stint. Once he was onto softs he was into clean air. Essentially he was able to run a normal race, in reverse, with lots of sets of soft tyres, without getting held up by anyone particularly.siskue2005 wrote:his strategy worked coz he could overtake equally fast cars with ease
That is the main thing, where he didnt loose practically any time
Wow, that is cold, and the teams were predicting high tyre wear even before that, I wonder if we'll see our first 4 stop strategies... Do the teams have enough sets of softs to consider that sensibly?Shrieker wrote:The weather will be cold this weekend by May standards. 10-11 C is being forecast. And a little rain too...
http://www.weather-forecast.com/locatio ... sts/latest
Interestingly somewhere i read LH had to overtake one more car on track from 2nd to 1st than Webber from 18th to 3rd. Makes your head spin!beelsebob wrote:No, his strategy worked because he *didn't have to* overtake said cars – the hard tyres were sufficiently slower that he was running slower than the mid field cars – note that he lost time to the pack during his first stint. Once he was onto softs he was into clean air. Essentially he was able to run a normal race, in reverse, with lots of sets of soft tyres, without getting held up by anyone particularly.
After T10.toshinden wrote:where will the DRS Zone be deployed? Start/Finish straight or after T10?
@shrieker : your avatar, is that Sofuoglu?
One of the many reasons why I think Webber's China race was overblown.alelanza wrote:Interestingly somewhere i read LH had to overtake one more car on track from 2nd to 1st than Webber from 18th to 3rd. Makes your head spin!beelsebob wrote:No, his strategy worked because he *didn't have to* overtake said cars – the hard tyres were sufficiently slower that he was running slower than the mid field cars – note that he lost time to the pack during his first stint. Once he was onto softs he was into clean air. Essentially he was able to run a normal race, in reverse, with lots of sets of soft tyres, without getting held up by anyone particularly.
Hamilton: Get less than a pit stop in front of people, make pit stop, have to pass them, repeat.raymondu999 wrote:Eh? How does that work? Webber was technically "in the same race" as Hamilton as they were both on the same strategy (albeit stint orders reversed) so, pound-for-pound, forward movement in terms of race position should have been "relatively equal" no? Logically, a reasonable deduction would be that Webber passed 13 more people than Hamilton, or thereabouts, as they were both on 3-stops. But the race is already sort of fuzzy in my mind - did Mark pit at such laps so that he was kind of running an "interlocking" strategy to those around him? ie pitting when those around him were mid-stint, and being mid-stint when the others around him were pitting?
Indeed so. If you're within 20 seconds of the front of a gaggle of mid field guys who all pit within a lap or two of each other you can pass the whole lot of them without ever seeing them. If you're also 2-3s / lap quicker than them and you're pitting 1 or 2 times more than them (so you're on better. faster rubber more of the time) then you're likely to leapfrog them.beelsebob wrote: It's entirely possible to make fewer on-track overtakes than another driver while making a massive position jump relative to them, simply by making all the overtakes happen while they've pitted and you haven't.