Red Bull RB7 Renault

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FredFlint wrote:I cant find a screenshot anywhere, but they did a thermal image of the RB and inside the front wing there were noticable hot areas.

Maybe they are using heating elements?

I cant think of any other reason why sections in the wing would be hot, the rest at ambient?
Perhaps that is where the brake coolers sit?
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andrew wrote:They are heating the front wing? Seriously?! Is this for the mechanics to have a quick fry-up during a pit stop? :wtf:

Are you suggesting that as the wing heats it becomes more supple?

Seeing as the FIA went scurrying into the Red Bull garage to investigate and found nothing I think it is safe to say there is no conspriacy or anything untoward going on - shocker(!)

The most obvious and simple answer is that these are merely sensors for measuring wing flex or air speed or something innocent like that.

The most obvious answer is often the solution. :wink:
I agree. But air speed is measured by pilot tubes on the tub and if your mesuring flex then its obviouly happening, hence...if they are the FIA should be looking into the fact they KNOW its flexing and still are blaming it on the set up to contravine the regulations

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horse wrote:
FredFlint wrote:I cant find a screenshot anywhere, but they did a thermal image of the RB and inside the front wing there were noticable hot areas.

Maybe they are using heating elements?

I cant think of any other reason why sections in the wing would be hot, the rest at ambient?
Perhaps that is where the brake coolers sit?
In the front wing? o.O

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Guys are you sure it's only the front wing that makes red bull 1/2 second faster? To me it seems too unlikely. Maybe they have 8 gears on their gearbox? :mrgreen: trying to be creative. Everybody is thinking in the same box.

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FredFlint wrote:We will probaly never find it unless somebody recorded it.

I have edited a picture from google though to give a rough idea of what it looked like.

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The Red Bull had a small green (warm) area, however it was between the two uprights (not where you expected it), and the rest of the length out to the endplates was blue (cold). We're talking a very small difference in temperature though (see the difference in the mechanics clothes and hands), so it is probably just an anomoly. For comparison, the Ferrari front wing was entriely blue (cold).

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It looks to be the same temperature as a person. Residual heat from someones hand? It looks more like it is the jack so it may have been sitting next to something warm, or sitting in the sun. Hardly conclusive evidence of anything is it?

Richied76 - A certain amount of flex is allowed so perhaps Red Bull want to be able to prove that their wing is not flexing too much so maybe there is some sort of telemetry connected with the wing. Forgot about the pilot tubes for measuring speed.

Echo - Agreed. I don't think a wobbly front wing would give such a huge advantage.

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Like others above suggested, that could be the residual heat from those small blowers they use to cool the brakes, they usually sit on the front wing. If not, thats very weird indeed! That heat shouldnt be there at all.

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Here's another pic at the start of the race, you can see the thermal spot at the front wing.

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delsando wrote:Here's another pic at the start of the race, you can see the thermal spot at the front wing.
That's be either the car sitting in the sun or heat from the motors in the brake coolers. #-o

Going by the colour of the track, Red Bull are clearly heating the track around their cars. Seriously, it's cooler by Rosbergs. Busted!!! :o

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they had another thermal image of his car in the pits, and there was no heat showing on the front wing, it's just all nonsense !

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^ Exactly! =D>

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hollowBallistix wrote:they had another thermal image of his car in the pits, and there was no heat showing on the front wing, it's just all nonsense !
They could be turning the heat on and off depending on race scenario etc.

Doesn´t the blowers sit on the wing flaps and not on the main plane of the wing?
The truth will come out...

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I'm sorry, but you're just twisting in the wind to make the conspiracy work. :lol:

I think the conspiracies should stop until something is shown to be in existance. With each post, the conspiracy theories become more laughable!

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Of course, the real question is "so, heating theory guys, where are they getting the energy to do this heating?" because to heat that wing the way they are suggesting would require serious energy.
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Just_a_fan wrote:Of course, the real question is "so, heating theory guys, where are they getting the energy to do this heating?" because to heat that wing the way they are suggesting would require serious energy.
Zomg, maybe that's why their KERS batteries are never charged </conspiracy> #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o