Turkish GP 2011 - Istanbul

[ringo]

Either Islamatron or Smikle.

What became of Islamatron?

[Mr Alcatraz]

Either Islamatron or Smikle.

What became of Islamatron?

He probably joined "The Peace Corps"

[djos]

Vettel claimed he had pace in reserve 'in case we needed to react'.

''But being in the lead and having this extra cushion plus we also had the pace in case we had to react. We never had someone really close behind which might be a completely different situation.''

Sure, I don't doubt Vettel could have gone faster, I do doubt Webber could have.

You realise Webber set the fastest lap of the race race (for the last 3 races infact) dont you? Clearly he has race speed and just needs to work on his qually 1 lap speed as this is where Seb has him beat right now.

[Tamburello]

From the press conference:

"Q: (Frederic Ferret - L’Equipe) Sebastian, do you feel you have any weakness now in your driving, in your team, in your car, and the same question for Mark, do you feel that there is somewhere that you can beat him?
SV: It is a long way to go and surely we’ve had a good start but I think that the day you start to think that you are unbeatable is the day you get beaten, for sure. We all try to win, obviously, and all try to be better than the other guys but I think there’s always someone at some point who will teach you a lesson and will give you a very hard time and beat you. We are racing at the highest level. Of course, I am very happy with today and the start of the season, very happy with how we work together as a team and pull together in one direction but I think there’s never any time to really rest and think that really everything is under control. You have a lot of guys, Mark and Fernando here, Lewis and Jenson, Nico was very quick yesterday. Obviously they lacked a little bit of pace today in the race, but surely I think you can see that we’ve had four races now but every single team has had their highs and lows, so I’m very happy, as I said, because we have been very competitive in all four races and very quick, but sometimes it was quite comfortable, like in Australia, in hindsight, but other times it was very, very close. I just want to remind you of Saturday in Malaysia where for us it was not clear to beat McLaren in qualifying. Yesterday Mercedes were very quick. Next race, I heard some rumours - I don’t know if it’s true - but many teams are bringing a lot of updates and that will be the story of the next couple of races. Everyone keeps pushing and you have to take everything you can at the time. "

This kid is getting everything right, whether it's in the car or out of it, at the moment.

[djos]

Yeah, Seb has really come of age since snatching the WDC from Webber and Alonso in AD last year and it's simply impossible to fault him atm!

[jamsbong]

With the slightly artificial DRS section aside, I thought it was a great race! I think Alonso and Kobayashi really making their cars punching above its weight.

Of course, there are some bad driving namely Schumacher and some other rookies. I think Schumacher mistakes are really embarrasing.

Overall, Drivers of the day would be Alonso and Kobayashi. Vettel is worth mentioning for being able to preserve the tyres while staying ahead of the competition after not having done any practice on friday. I know the commentators said they can have endless simulation time but that is the case for all drivers including Webber. So there is no reason why Webber should be at any disadvantage compared to Vettel. I am aware that things can change every quickly in F1 but I feel that Vettel is worthy of a champ.

[Tamburello]

Indeed, let's not forget about Kamui. What a racer he is: from dead last to 10th and he even suffered a puncture somewhere in between!

[raymondu999]

A points-tied Championship. Hard to get much closer than that. The Champion would be Vettel, by virtue of more race wins.

So, which "season" would have been more exciting for you to watch?

Alright; I just did a full overhaul of my old-points calculations; (using the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system) and I found that; in fact, alarmingly, neither mine nor your quoted calculations were correct

And after a full audit of the points; here are what they *should* be

1. Sebastian Vettel 104
2. Fernando Alonso 101
3. Lewis Hamilton 100
4. Mark Webber 97
5. Jenson Button 87
6. Felipe Massa 57
7. Nico Rosberg 55
8. Robert Kubica 52
9. Michael Schumacher 25
10. Rubens Barrichello 15
11. Adrian Sutil 15
12. Vitaly Petrov 9
13. Kamui Kobayashi 9
14. Nico Hülkenberg 6
15. Vitantonio Liuzzi 5
16. Pedro de la Rosa 2
17. Sébastien Buemi 1
18. Nick Heidfeld 1
19. Jaime Alguersuari 0
20. Heikki Kovalainen 0
21. Jarno Trulli 0
22. Karun Chandhok 0
23. Bruno Senna 0
24. Lucas Di Grassi 0
25. Timo Glock 0
26. Sakon Yamamoto 0
27. Christian Klien 0

So in the end it doesn't turn out to be a countback championship after all. I'm not sure where I went wrong; or where the site you quoted went wrong Ringo - but I just redid the whole set of calculations.

[sriraj1031]

the rule says 107% time for qualification and kamui didn't post a lap and how did he start?

[netoperek]

The rule also says that marshalls can do whatever they want (ie allow any driver who failed to comply with 107% rule to drive) regardless of the 107 percent rule.

[Robbobnob]

to be more precise, the stewards can use their discretion, in Kamui's case, he previously completed a lap in less than the eventual 107%, so they then allowed him to race. In Luizzi's case at Melbourne, not once had he completed a lap under the 107% threshold therefore wasnt allowed to race

[piast9]

The BOSS moniker is similar to Prost being The Professor.

Nope, it's just what it is written on his overall. The Boss.

Alternatively you may call him "Johnie Walker"

[beelsebob]

Vettel claimed he had pace in reserve 'in case we needed to react'.

''But being in the lead and having this extra cushion plus we also had the pace in case we had to react. We never had someone really close behind which might be a completely different situation.''

Sure, I don't doubt Vettel could have gone faster, I do doubt Webber could have.

You realise Webber set the fastest lap of the race race (for the last 3 races infact) dont you? Clearly he has race speed and just needs to work on his qually 1 lap speed as this is where Seb has him beat right now.

The point being that Alonso was hot on his tail, and when asked to go faster, Alonso passed him. Webber had no more race pace today. All setting the quickest lap means is that Vettel (unusually) didn't turn it up for 1 lap at the end.

[Ciro Pabón]

Alternatively you may call him "Johnie Walker"

... or Satan-der, I think

(It's hard to see the full name of the sponsor because of the crease in the suit).



Also, if you watch closely, the clock in his left wrist says 6:06:06.



Beeeeewaaaaare of The Were-Boss!

[djos]

The point being that Alonso was hot on his tail, and when asked to go faster, Alonso passed him. Webber had no more race pace today. All setting the quickest lap means is that Vettel (unusually) didn't turn it up for 1 lap at the end.

Webber was on used Primes and Alonso was on new primes when he got by Webber, the situation was reversed when Mark got by Fernando to cement his 2nd place.

Perhaps watch the race and the driver interviews next time!

You're thinking back to the everlasting Bridgestone days, it's just not possible to pull off this sort of thing now unless your tires are up to it, Webbers tires clearly have been for the 3 races due to his race strategies.