McLaren MP4-26 Mercedes

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Holm86 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
Holm86 wrote:Found it. Dont know how to put the picture directly in the thread.
But heres the link :
http://www.sutton-images.com/preview.as ... &index=252
I don't see any particular difference, what's meant to have changed?

I dont say that it HAS changed :) Im more asking if it has??

Because to me it looks different in the middle section where it merges with the pillar.
It's pretty hard to tell given the sutton overlay on top, I don't really see any difference though.

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BreezyRacer wrote:
scarlet wrote:If the ban is true and furthermore ebds are nerfed significantly, this may hinder McLaren less than other teams as their car generates a higher proportion of its downforce from the rear wing, right?
Not sure as their beam wing is very blocked, though the upper wing is pretty efficient.
Blocked in what way? They have a large amount of airflow coming through the channels over the side pods directly to the beam wing.

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Boost wrote:
BreezyRacer wrote:
scarlet wrote:If the ban is true and furthermore ebds are nerfed significantly, this may hinder McLaren less than other teams as their car generates a higher proportion of its downforce from the rear wing, right?
Not sure as their beam wing is very blocked, though the upper wing is pretty efficient.
Blocked in what way? They have a large amount of airflow coming through the channels over the side pods directly to the beam wing.
I think he means through all of the rear suspension components, but I don't think that McLaren are any worse off than any other team.
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I think Mclaren will be sitting pretty if they ban the Retarded Ignition. Although they also use it, they quite clearly have the most stable car on the grid. Even the RB is left wanting went it comes to being absolutely planted at all times.

Obviously the car has less DF compared to the RB, but I think that stability will come in very handy if the cars are becoming a bit light at the rear end when they are off the throttle.
Felipe Baby!

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Tim Goss (which Autosport puts as Timo :lol: ) says McLaren are bringing a package of 10-12 upgrades to the car for Spain.

Interestingly, he also says they brought some to Turkey but unsure reliability had them take it off. I thought they claimed it was a manufactring error. Manufacturing, reliability, neither, what was it?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91487

EDITED - Miswrote China instead of Spain 8)
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MikeFromCanada wrote:Tim Goss (which Autosport puts as Timo :lol: ) says McLaren are bringing a package of 10-12 upgrades to the car for China.

Interestingly, he also says they brought some to Turkey but unsure reliability had them take it off. I thought they claimed it was a manufactring error. Manufacturing, reliability, neither, what was it?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91487
Could be a manufacturing error resulted in poor reliability, ie defective/weaker materials/assembly/construction?

Are they really planning for China? or perhaps he meant Spain?

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richard_leeds wrote: Could be a manufacturing error resulted in poor reliability, ie defective/weaker materials/assembly/construction?

Are they really planning for China? or perhaps he meant Spain?
Good catch, edited my post!

Here was the quote from Whitmarsh I believe just after qualifying for Turkey:

"We were coming here with the intention of bringing some performance. Various things conspired against us - we had a rig failure in a test on Thursday back in the UK, we had a wet first session which took out quite a lot of our opportunity to develop the car,"

One way or the another, they decided not put whatever parts they had available on the car after Friday due to uncertainties.

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Tim Goss

Q: You said some of the updates were obvious, some aren’t. Can you tell us what the obvious ones are?
TG: As you know we introduced a change of concept at the rear end of the car just before the start of the season. We’ve been living with some sort of sub-optimal packaging in that region for several races now, and I think what you’ll see is some bodywork and floor changes that aim to tidy up that area of the installation.

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So tighter coke bottle shape to start, quite possibly smaller sidepods to reduce the drag from their over-effective cooling. When he says some you wont see, I'd have to guess thats an allusion to their engine mapping.

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MikeFromCanada wrote:So tighter coke bottle shape to start, quite possibly smaller sidepods to reduce the drag from their over-effective cooling. When he says some you wont see, I'd have to guess thats an allusion to their engine mapping.
I'm not convinced by smaller cooling systems – I would expect instead, a hotter engine (see new engine mapping).

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Im quite pleased to hear they were running sub optimal packaging around the rear. It looked like that was the case.

I think this is what people were getting at when they said the 26 has more scope for development over the likes of redbull where im sure they cant package anything much better than it already is!

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Mclaren did their innovation before the season started. For Red Bull to find large improvements, they have to innovate during the season on small things, which can essentially not work anyway.

Scope is there, the performance isnt, but soon!
Felipe Baby!

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New sidepods with enlarged channel:
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What channel? On the U shaped sidepods? I cant see any changes to be quite honest.

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keoxiv wrote:New sidepods with enlarged channel:
I can't see a difference. Do you mean a larger intake or a larger scoop for air to flow over the top?