Could you pass a driving test?

[trisswines]

First time when I gave exam, I couldn't passed but then I would want to point out that I got a much better percent for my actual driving theory almost a year ago. Just so the low percent doesn't make people think I am not very good at this.

[Mr Alcatraz]

Got 72, not that great considering I renewed my Ca.DL in April and had to take the written test. The only preparation I did was grab a Drivers handbook when I went inside. I had about 15 min’s to peruse it and I only missed one on the test. This was the first written test I’ve been required to take since I first received my CDL in 1970, except for the motorcycle test and that one is or at least was scaled to allow about half as many wrong answers to pass. For that one you really do have to know your sh!t

[andrew]

44% - F!!!!!

Thankfully I live in the UK where I passed my theory test with full marks and we measure distances in real money (feet and inches - pah!) and who ever heard of the pedestrian haviong right of way?! Don't recall having that here unless the crossing lights say otherwise.

Darn colonies!

[Mr Alcatraz]

44% - F!!!!!

Thankfully I live in the UK where I passed my theory test with full marks and we measure distances in real money (feet and inches - pah!) and who ever heard of the pedestrian haviong right of way?! Don't recall having that here unless the crossing lights say otherwise.

Darn colonies!

That's funny. The pedestrian right of way has been on the books in California since before 1960. BTW most drivers are completely oblivious to that rule though. And unless you are at a corner with a control light its totally pedestrian beware. One of my pet peeves is that I always try to conform to the rule but half the time you have numbskulls at the corner ignoring you or not accepting it and waving you through. It pisses me off because it's an easy way to get ticket if a cop hasn't made his quota.
I missed a distance question and I can't use the metric system as an excuse. Questions like which color light is on the top of the tree is considered a no brainer, is it the same in the UK?

[Morteza]

39% F and failed the test I don't have a driving license and never did a driving test before. It was fun

[Jeffsvilleusa]

I think I got 53% (I pushed back on my browser, and then the test reset when I hit forward), anyway I got an 'F' and failed. But it's too late- I already got my license!! Just renewed it and didn't have to take any test!

@Andrew re: pedestrian right of way: I did student exchange to Glasgow for 9 months, and I learned real quick pedestrians do *NOT* have the right of way! If there is no crosswalk, you can just expect to wait until all cars are past, but from Glasgow I came straight to San Francisco, and it is like night and day- in SF people just step out in front of cars with impunity safe in their imaginary 'impervious pedestrian bubble.' And many cars likewise will wave you across if you are just hanging out on the corner- "I wasn't actually planning on crossing the street, but if you insist"

[Anth]

61%

Guess I need to brush up on my highway code before travelling to the US

[Caito]

D+ 66%, from Argentina. Some things are quite different.

[Mr Alcatraz]

I think I got 53% (I pushed back on my browser, and then the test reset when I hit forward), anyway I got an 'F' and failed. But it's too late- I already got my license!! Just renewed it and didn't have to take any test!

@Andrew re: pedestrian right of way: I did student exchange to Glasgow for 9 months, and I learned real quick pedestrians do *NOT* have the right of way! If there is no crosswalk, you can just expect to wait until all cars are past, but from Glasgow I came straight to San Francisco, and it is like night and day- in SF people just step out in front of cars with impunity safe in their imaginary 'impervious pedestrian bubble.' And many cars likewise will wave you across if you are just hanging out on the corner- "I wasn't actually planning on crossing the street, but if you insist"

You sir are laboring under a misconception, and you are applying far too wide a degree of legal latitude to the Auto / Pedestrian right of way laws, but not completely wrong in your description of the behavior of pedestrians. The law clearly states they do not always have the right of way. In fact a large portion of that test was made up of a few misleading, and not necessarily true questions, that are sprinkle on the tests to see if you are paying attention to the rules as stated in the handbook. Remember you are being tested for a licenses for the priviledge to legally drive a motor vehechle. And They are basicly trying to get you to acknowledeg this; "You will do everything possible to avoid an accident with a Homo Sapien because you will be at fault no matter what" (or something like that)
That is the reason so many people scored poorly.
As I stated in my previous post you are quite right that too many pedestrians do not act expeditiously or even at all, within the reasoning of the law.

In cities like San Francisco that is so densely populated you have to demand your pedestrian right of way or you would never get across the street, largely because people drive around endlessly just to find a place to park. There has to be order to this chaos, which means not considering being courteous to someone when you obviously have the right of way.
San Francisco is a Great City to visit, especially for the Chinese and Italian cuisine. It's is in very close proximity to the terrific hiking, trout fishing, and Skiing of South Yosemite. Directly to the north you have Massive Old Growth Redwoods and Sequoia's. They are a true wonder, but San Francisco is cold and windy as hell in the summer and almost as miserable in the winter.
I prefer to wear short pants year round in S.D.


California was the first state to have the Pedestrian ROW in the US and it is not Carte blanche When my family moved here from New York in 1960, my Father proceeded to plow into a guy that was yielding a pedestrian the right of way. That's how I know it's been on the books since 1960. Pedestrians do not have the right of way if they are in violation of the traffic laws. These laws are very specifically worded. For instance if you are downtown or any thoroughfare that has a control light at consecutive corners, and you cross the street somewhere in-between the pedestrian breakes the traffic code and is at fault if it is deemed he was 51% responsible for an auto vs pedestrian collision. he will not only receive a citation for the illegal maneuver. He is liable for damages to the car in a civil matter.

Submitted for your viewing pleasure :-"

21950(a) CVC – Right-of-Way at Crosswalks - The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter. (b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. No pedestrian shall unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a marked or unmarked crosswalk. (c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.



21954(a) CVC – Pedestrians Outside Crosswalk - Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard. (b) The provisions of this section shall not relieve the driver of a vehicle from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway.

21955 CVC – Crossing Between Controlled Intersections - Between adjacent intersections controlled by traffic control signal devices or by police officers, pedestrians shall not cross the roadway at any place except in a crosswalk.

Their is more. Feel free to peruse the link:

http://www.legal-news-california.tozerl ... ornia.html

[Jeffsvilleusa]

I was just saying if you step into the road in Glasgow, you'll end up flat as a pancake, but in SF they might stop

True, SF is year-round jacket weather. I heard San Diego is nice.

[Mr Alcatraz]

I was just saying if you step into the road in Glasgow, you'll end up flat as a pancake, but in SF they might stop
True, SF is year-round jacket weather. I heard San Diego is nice.

Actually that is not all you were saying

safe in their imaginary 'impervious pedestrian bubble.'

SF probably compares to Glasgow fairly well weather wise except your summers have to be at least a little warmer than SF. San Diego is nice. The coastal area is moderate year round, but it is really just an irrigated chaparral desert once you go inland about 10 miles, And can be uncomfortably hot in the summer, and even worse in fall when the Santa Ana's come in, and they affect the coastal strip as well. What sets San Diego apart is the ocean water is warm enough to swim in without a wet suite almost all summer. In S.F. you would die of hypothermia in less than an hour on their hottest day without a wet suite!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds

[Jeffsvilleusa]

Actually that is not all you were saying

I'm confused! I know what I meant- at least I think I know what I meant!

Anyway, let's put it behind us and since we live so close, I'll have you over next Tuesday for a duck dinner

[Ciro Pabón]

Tazio, after reading the rules you posted, I think I will live on this side of the road for the rest of my life: I am not able to cross it.

I would suggest to enforce those rules in the southern border: this would mean no more immigrants!

Now, here is the driving test you should be interested in.

I hereby give you the application for a FIA license. If you are unable to get a regular driver license, then the FIA one is the last resource you have left.

You don't have to learn about road signs! You don't need to learn to stick shift! You just move a paddle!

You don't even have to know how to change a tyre!

Heck, you don't need to learn all that stupid rules and regulations that prevent you from crashing (like the one that forbids you to overtake a car by passing through it).

We all know (after Monaco) that this is an advantage when driving an F1 car.

Of course, this application is the one valid in the American United States of America, in North America.

If you're unfamiliar with this country, I can tell you that it is in America, north of my current position, in America (the fake one).

Actually, it is exactly 4300 km north, that is 3200 ells, 13 rods, 15 furlongs, 3/127 of an inch and a baker's dozen northward, in the simplified US standard system that Tazio uses.

This explains the confusion in the mind of Jeffsville: he had to learn it too and he is confused by living in the emancipated colonies and having to use a system that is called Imperial (I would call it Republican or at least Democratic measuring system).

The FIA license application I found is for 2007, but probably you can get a newer one in the Internets.

http://www.imsaracing.net/2007/misc/FIA ... ICENSE.pdf

I think everybody in this forum should get one except, of course, the guys with psychological problems (point number 5 in the medical exam). I got mine before the Alzhaimer set in.

People without an extremity or without an eye cannot apply either (sorry, pirates, you're out, see point 6).

So, my proposal is that, exception made of pirates and nutcases, which are unable to get one, a FIA license should be required for registration here, at F1 Tech.

Gross deformities exclude you, which I think means no more fanboys! I believe that's the best part of my proposal.

I'm not sure if being a fan of McLaren, Ferrari or RedBull also qualifies as gross deformity, but I think that if you are one of them you cannot get a FIA license anyway: point number 3 specifically mentions "unconsciousness for any reason".

Hamilton fans can forget about getting one: points 9 (high or low blood pressure), 4 (eye trouble), 15 (nervous trouble of any sort), 14 (attempted suicide) and 1 (frequent or severe headaches) exclude you. Perhaps next year...

NASCAR drivers are also out (sorry, Jeffsville, Gordon is kaput): paragraph C. states: "Have you had an automobile accident, including racing, in the past two years?" and we all know that NASCAR drivers cannot keep themselves out of accidents for two minutes, not to mention two years.

Now, don't tell me you're all unconscious crazy pirates, so you qualify for this forum.

You are? I should have guessed that. Who eats ducks, anyway?

(yeah, I know, Giblet. Canucks eat Ducks at Anaheim but that doesn't count).

Oh, and no, I don't smoke anything while I post. I was born this way: I'm a natural pirate.

Like you.

[Mr Alcatraz]

@ Jeffsville in the USA and Ciro de Bergerac. Thank you for your clever and good spirited humor. Jeff I totally spaced and thought you said you did exchange in the USA and that you were a citizen of the UK. My Brother teaches school in South Berkely, and lives in Alameda. Here I am telling you about your home. Sorrrrrrry SF also has the best Gelato I've ever had and I will inhale the Duck dish. I can understand why you are confused Ciro having that deformed nose and French-Columbian ethnicity. But you are a famous "Man of Letters" and I have the utmost respect for you in that arena. As for my afflictions, thanks for caring. On May 5th I went down hard on my Aprilia. I really can’t blame anyone but myself, although it is quite odd that my bike has an anti lock rear brake and ridiculously sticky-sensitive dual fronts. I was only doing about 25 mph when I caught a spot of oil as I was changing lanes, and my front end washed out so fast that it took me half the day to figure out that the only part of my bike that collided with the car I hit was the end of the handle of my front brake lever. The car had a dent about ¼ inch deep an3/4inch wide and the owner did not care to file an accident report. Since I bought my bike outright I only carry theft and liability so there was no reason for me to file one either. I truly live a charmed life. The bike had very little damage as my body broke its fall for the most part. The rib I cracked is only painful if I try to lift with my right arm. I’ve been back up riding just to remind myself that this is really more fun than adults should be allowed to have. This is the first accident (not counting dirt bikes) that I have had on a motorcycle since I laid down my Honda 125 (twin) “Dream” in 1971. It is only a little annoying that I don't heal quite as fast as I did when I was a younger man
It doesn't hurt to laugh any more so I’m back to digging all the very colorful comments that this forum allows me to be a member of.
Your faithful friend, and humble brother,
Taz

BTW thank you Ciro for the applications for the licenses although I think I will decline.
The only officially sanctioned race I competed in was a CMC sanctioned Motocross race at a place called "The Fly-in LD Ranch" just outside Zion National Park in Utah. Back in the early 80's I was living in Las Vegas, and an employee convinced me I was fast enough on my CR 250 to win the Novice / Vet (that sounds like it makes a lot of sense doesn't it.) Actually Vet is over 30 and a novice I'm pretty sure you know that means you have to run with a green number plate. I chose #20 the number I achieved my greatest accomplishments in Baseball in High School, and College. I had a blast on that bike desert riding in the Las Vegas area when the city was about 20 times smaller than it is now and at the end of the street of the house I was buying was a clear shot up to the Spring Mountains with excellent dark earth improvised tracks with massive elevation change.
The Highlights of my race weekend were; dragging a kid about 15 years old off the bottom of a blind 20ft downhill whose clavicle I could see protruding through his body armor and pulling his bike off the track in practice. The second highlight was I collided with Sue Fish doing a double clicker over a tabletop in practice. She saw my green plate and I don't think she was too disgusted. My third highlight was I was not lapped in my classification in either Moto, and finished about midpack. Mercedes Gonzalez edged out Sue Fish for the women’s championship in a race that was so close (and ended at the same tabletop that I collided with Sue) they had to both stay on the gas right through the jump and it was pretty effing impressive. Badoer Monet was the men’s overall winner and probably no one has ever heard of him.

Edit: That is Bader Manneh I'm sure some of you have heard of him. Here is his facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/prof ... 1380798650
I didn't even know he was from San Diego.
In the advent of Supercross and Motocross their was a disproportionate amount of racers from the San Diego area that were champions or contenders for. =D>

[Jeffsvilleusa]

Ouch!

Sorry to hear about the spill- hope you have a speedy recovery. At least you retained your clavicle! Cool story about the motorcycle race- done in true Tazio style!

Don't worry about the mix-up, no harm done. When I first arrived in Glasgow I took my bike with me and when I first took it on the road I started down the right lane- now there is a mix-up I never repeated!

Anyway, if you can't make it out Tuesday (you bring the ducks), we can shoot for Austin! viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10171