Exhaust blown diffusers and FIA restrictions/ban

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Plus, don't forget Ferrari actually own F1Technical (just look at the red F1 letters in the logo), and use it to promote their dark interests. This is exactly the reason why there is so much Ferrari-bashing in this forum. They actually pay people to post false accusations, in order to convince innocent forum visitors that this is an anti-Ferrari forum, then brainwash them by strategically placed posts in every thread to make them start smoking Marlboro. The blue backgrounds are another attempt to capitalize on Ford's intellectual property, as is forum member Whiteblue, who is actually an AI bot. These people are ruthless. You can't imagine how far they can go. Recently emerging evidence suggests Massa's accident may have been sabotage (is it pure chance that the spring fell off Barichello's car, a former Ferrari employee???), but was actually meant to hit Kimi (Rubens effed up again), after he told Montezemolo to eff off during a party while drinking Red Bull and vodka. Hell, they even paid me to post all this so you may think it is not true, but it is. Uh-oh, there's someone at the door...Damn! It's the postman! I am sure these bastards work for them, all dressed up in red and everything! I'll shoot him in the face just to be on the safe side.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Well, Domenicali did say that we would have to see what the 'second championship', as he calls it, would be after Silverstone. I don't see any other team boss talking like that. Why?

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munudeges wrote:Well, Domenicali did say that we would have to see what the 'second championship', as he calls it, would be after Silverstone. I don't see any other team boss talking like that. Why?
Because their English is better than Domenicali's?
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andartop wrote:Plus, don't forget Ferrari actually own F1Technical (just look at the red F1 letters in the logo), and use it to promote their dark interests. This is exactly the reason why there is so much Ferrari-bashing in this forum. They actually pay people to post false accusations, in order to convince innocent forum visitors that this is an anti-Ferrari forum, then brainwash them by strategically placed posts in every thread to make them start smoking Marlboro. The blue backgrounds are another attempt to capitalize on Ford's intellectual property, as is forum member Whiteblue, who is actually an AI bot. These people are ruthless. You can't imagine how far they can go. Recently emerging evidence suggests Massa's accident may have been sabotage (is it pure chance that the spring fell off Barichello's car, a former Ferrari employee???), but was actually meant to hit Kimi (Rubens effed up again), after he told Montezemolo to eff off during a party while drinking Red Bull and vodka. Hell, they even paid me to post all this so you may think it is not true, but it is. Uh-oh, there's someone at the door...Damn! It's the postman! I am sure these bastards work for them, all dressed up in red and everything! I'll shoot him in the face just to be on the safe side.
epic =D> =D> =D>

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dren wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92870

In a round about way, Newey is pointing at Ferrari. I would not be surprised given the sport's past history. Thoughts?
Charlie Whiting has been quoted saying it was a team that asked for a clarification, but not Ferrari. HRT seems more likely, Kolles threatened to protest the whole grid after all.
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andartop wrote:
munudeges wrote:Well, Domenicali did say that we would have to see what the 'second championship', as he calls it, would be after Silverstone. I don't see any other team boss talking like that. Why?
Because their English is better than Domenicali's?
An appropriate answer to that idiotic conspiracy theory.
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andartop wrote:
munudeges wrote:Well, Domenicali did say that we would have to see what the 'second championship', as he calls it, would be after Silverstone. I don't see any other team boss talking like that. Why?
Because their English is better than Domenicali's?
=D> :lol: =D> :lol: =D> :lol:

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andartop wrote:Because their English is better than Domenicali's?
So he doesn't know what he's saying, basically? Errrrr, no. Domenicali knows what 'second championship' means as well as anyone else and no other team boss has said anything like it. It's all a question of who it has benefitted.

People love to try and muddy the waters when it comes to Ferrari in order to try and not see what is in front of them, but that's par for the course. I'm afraid Domenicali's comments are not a conspiracy theory of any kind. He knows what he's saying and he knows why he's said it.

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I know people are talking about whether actively changing mapping between qualifying and race is difficult /not allowed etc.

But would it be possible to set the mapping to change itself. After all, the durations of Q1,Q2 & Q3 are known plus qualification and racing happen on different days. It would be very simple to allow the software to 'evolve' against a known timescale.

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so much for that


Renault due to reliability data allowed to run 50% by FIA


expect this weekend to be overshadowed by complaints to FIA


http://thef1times.com/news/display/03871

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FIA = joke

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Oh God, if that's true then as Tony Fernandes says it's a total shambles.

50% cold blow = 10% hot blow.

So 100% hot blow is equivalent to 500% cold blow? Says a lot about the Red Bull if that's the case.

Thing is, why not just stop retarded ignition too, then? If everyone is told to stop doing everything related to diffuser blowing then it's all 2009 right? What's wrong with that?
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horse wrote:Thing is, why not just stop retarded ignition too, then? If everyone is told to stop doing everything related to diffuser blowing then it's all 2009 right? What's wrong with that?
Impossible. Using the exhaust to blow the diffuser is not forbidden. They'd have to rewrite the technical regulations concerning the floor and the diffuser to do that.

They tried to go back to 2009 mappings. Probably Mercedes and co could not provide any old mappings with more than 10% throttle in idle position. Red Bull on the other hand may have tried to have their exhausts blow into the DDD they incorporated mid season. If so they may also have been supported by Renault with special mappings to test it. And if so they simply had 2009 mappings with 50% throttle while idling.

Instead of slowing down Red Bull this made them slip away even more. Quite an ironic situation.