Exhaust blown diffusers and FIA restrictions/ban

[munudeges]

The fact that it's RED BULL complaining rather than their engine manufacturer, leads me to believe the engine doesn't really require 50% throttle on the overrun to survive.

The engines are run completely differently in different cars and in the Red Bull their exhausts are completely different to any other team who runs a Renault engine. It has a large effect.

[munudeges]

I wonder who in this whole debacle has benefitted? Hmmmm. The qualifying times wouldn't give us any clue, would they?

Considering that Whiting in his infinite wisdom said that he really wanted to stop the practice of fuel ignition, I wonder why he then did a U-turn and allowed it and then opened a massive can of worms where teams who didn't use the practice weren't being treated equally.

[WhiteBlue]

According to Autosport they are likely to go back to pre Silverstone for the rest of the season.

During Saturday morning's Extraordinary Technical Working Group meeting, the members discussed the viability of returning to the pre-Silverstone set-ups and strategies.

If the teams are in unanimous agreement, the FIA is prepared to adopt this arrangement until the end of the current season.

[timbo]

According to Autosport they are likely to go back to pre Silverstone for the rest of the season.

During Saturday morning's Extraordinary Technical Working Group meeting, the members discussed the viability of returning to the pre-Silverstone set-ups and strategies.

If the teams are in unanimous agreement, the FIA is prepared to adopt this arrangement until the end of the current season.

Do you expect Williams or HRT to agree?

[FW17]

This is politics again to split the FOTA

[myurr]

The fact that it's RED BULL complaining rather than their engine manufacturer, leads me to believe the engine doesn't really require 50% throttle on the overrun to survive.

The engines are run completely differently in different cars and in the Red Bull their exhausts are completely different to any other team who runs a Renault engine. It has a large effect.

So you expect double engine failure on the Red Bulls this weekend because of the 10% ruling?

Methinks you doth protest to much.

[bill shoe]

If the FIA wants to do this style of rule making then they shouldn't be half-ass about it.

For example, don't change the rules during practice-- wait until the race has already started. Then Charlie Whiting can spin a giant wheel to determine what rule to change and by how much. Partial exemptions from the new rules will be granted on the basis of releasing a chicken into the pitlane and observing which garage it walks into.

Forgive me for quoting myself.

The chicken, apparently, has wandered into the Mercedes garage.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

@andrewbensonf1 Andrew Benson
Ten of the 12 teams have agreed to revert to Valencia spec - free blowing but no change after qual. Williams and Sauber the exceptions at mo

[bill shoe]

Classic FIA ploy. Drop a big rules turd on F1 and tell the teams its their job to unanimously fix it.

NASCAR can be pretty heavy-handed and dictatorial, but they would never do this manipulative change-their-mind-6-times thing.

[doink]

Oh dear, the FIA really have got themselves in a tangle over this one haven't they! At least you can all stop with the speculation that the ban was put in place to spice up the racing, because it's clearly not having a massive impact on RedBull, and it's only achieved spanking McLaren if qualification is anything to go by. You have to give it to Adrian Newey, he has lead the team that has built an incredible car over these last couple of seasons.

Hopefully they will learn and the major rule changes will be left until the end of the season and put all of this nonsense to rest, because, quite frankly, it's getting a bit boring.

[WhiteBlue]

@andrewbensonf1 Andrew Benson
Ten of the 12 teams have agreed to revert to Valencia spec - free blowing but no change after qual. Williams and Sauber the exceptions at mo

I reckon both Williams and Sauber will cave in to some juicy offers behind closed doors. Williams should be open to some suggestions by Renault. If push comes to shove both teams would probably accept some little help from their Austrian friends in exchange for their approval. Neither Mateschitz, nor Newey should be too difficult to approach for a deal whatever it is that those teams may wish to find under their pillow from the tooth fairy in return for having the respective teeth pulled.

[doink]

If the FIA wants to do this style of rule making then they shouldn't be half-ass about it.

For example, don't change the rules during practice-- wait until the race has already started. Then Charlie Whiting can spin a giant wheel to determine what rule to change and by how much. Partial exemptions from the new rules will be granted on the basis of releasing a chicken into the pitlane and observing which garage it walks into.

Forgive me for quoting myself.

The chicken, apparently, has wandered into the Mercedes garage.

The teams designed the cars around the blown diffuser, some of the engines need to cold or hot blow for reliability reasons. As soon as these issues were raised, the ban should have been put off until next season, where it's a simple fix of just changing the exhaust position. Madness.

[Goran2812]

I hate this... This is not Formula 1... -.-

[ecapox]

The first thing i would do is fight to get some wording in the rules that says "changes to rules will not be allowed mid-season with the exception of safety rules."

It would almost have been better to let some teams contest the overrun mappings instead of all the garbage that we have had the last few days.

[Holm86]

1.5 seconds! I wouldn't bet on a tyre issue.. That's a car issue!

Good thing this rule will not be around in Germany.

Not sure about that. All teams need to vote for the ban to be lifted. I bet some of the middle teams aint keen on that idea. Williams looks to have gained some from the ban.